SC Reciprocity Bill

press1280 · Feb 3, 2017

http://www.scstatehouse.gov/query.p...390389&result_pos=0&keyval=1223240&numrows=10

Hopefully this will be a moot point if National Reciprocity is passed. This would be a big plus for MD residents, who are currently reduced to glove box carry in the state.
Fingers crossed but SC is really weird about bills like these. SLED (SC Law Enforcement Division) seems to yield a lot of sway with the pols down there and always lobbies against expansion of public carry.

yakfish · Feb 5, 2017

What does "glove box carry" mean? I'm not familiar with the term.

swinokur · Feb 5, 2017

In SC you can keep a loaded pistol in your glove box or console, as SC does not recognize non resident CCW permits

press1280 · Feb 18, 2017

http://www.postandcourier.com/polit...cle_2bf9edcc-f308-11e6-8fe3-0366ddca0d85.html

Bill heads to the full House. Was also amended for an 18-20 Y/O military exemption to the 21 age limit.

swinokur · Feb 18, 2017

Even though SC did pass a law specifically recognizing GA, I'm sure the exemption will make them happy. GA refused to recognize VA for this reason, even though they recognize states that don't exempt

VA is trying to amend their statute to make GA happy.

We reaaly need HR 38

press1280 · May 2, 2017

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20170502/south-carolina-gun-bills-on-the-move-in-columbia

Hope this isn't a signal that ConCarry is dead in SC. Still a big step forward if it passes, although it looks like it's been stonewalled to death in the House even as more and more legislators are added as co-sponsors:

http://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess122_2017-2018/bills/3240.htm

swinokur · May 2, 2017

driving from VA to FL without having to disarm would be a step in the right direction however.

jbrown50 · May 2, 2017

swinokur said:
driving from VA to FL without having to disarm would be a step in the right direction however.

Yes. Making progress is good.

I have a relative by marriage in SC who's actually upset with the possibility of ConCarry being dead for now. It's constitutional carry or bust. I told him that "I'm 100% for constitutional carry everywhere and believe we'll get there in my lifetime, but for now you have a SC carry permit and can legally carry there. People who visit you from a non reciprocal state can't. How'd you like to be in their shoes?" His response was that I was right and he didn't really think about that.

swinokur · May 3, 2017

Not only that non resident permits from reciprocal states aren't honored either.

jbrown50 · May 3, 2017

Looks like it passed the House today:

http://www.scstatehouse.gov/votehistory.php?KEY=13395

House Roll Call Vote Number 584 Session:
122 (2017-2018) 05/03/2017 04:15 pm

Passage of Bill RESULT: Passed
Yeas: 85; Nays: 23; Excused Absence: 6; Not Voting: 6

H 3240 Concealed weapons permit

redeemed.man · May 3, 2017

jbrown50 said:
Looks like it passed the House today:

http://www.scstatehouse.gov/votehistory.php?KEY=13395

So now what, on to the governor? Or has this one not cleared the Senate yet?

jbrown50 · May 3, 2017

boundlessdyad said:
So now what, on to the governor? Or has this one not cleared the Senate yet?

The Senate is next.

redeemed.man · May 3, 2017

jbrown50 said:
The Senate is next.

Is there time?

jbrown50 · May 4, 2017

boundlessdyad said:
Is there time?

Unlikely. May 11th is the end of the first year of the 2017 - 2018 two year session. We'll most likely see it picked up next year.

press1280 · May 6, 2017

The bill has passed the House and according to an article they still have till the end of the month. That's the good news.

The bad news? The bill was amended so SC will only recognize states that recognize their permit, and they restored the stupid resident only clause. So MD residents are still screwed.

They simply can't get their s*** together in SC. The bill passed 85-23. Were there that many who voted yea for this version that were opposed to the other? Doesn't make sense.

redeemed.man · May 6, 2017

press1280 said:
The bill has passed the House and according to an article they still have till the end of the month. That's the good news.

The bad news? The bill was amended so SC will only recognize states that recognize their permit, and they restored the stupid resident only clause. So MD residents are still screwed.

They simply can't get their s*** together in SC. The bill passed 85-23. Were there that many who voted yea for this version that were opposed to the other? Doesn't make sense.

So in other words they won't even pick up many states as a result.

jbrown50 · May 6, 2017

press1280 said:
The bill has passed the House and according to an article they still have till the end of the month. That's the good news.

The bad news? The bill was amended so SC will only recognize states that recognize their permit, and they restored the stupid resident only clause. So MD residents are still screwed.

They simply can't get their s*** together in SC. The bill passed 85-23. Were there that many who voted yea for this version that were opposed to the other? Doesn't make sense.

Hopefully the Senate can muster enough votes to amend it back to the original intent, but then it would likely have to go back to the House for their approval, correct? Hopefully there's enough time.

press1280 · May 6, 2017

boundlessdyad said:
So in other words they won't even pick up many states as a result.

I don't think the number of states changes much for either version of the bill. They'll pick up a few either way.
But changing the bill like this doesn't even pass a Federal Court's "public safety" test. Reciprocity is simply based on who recognizes the SC permit. Training & potential disqualifiers don't matter.

Stoveman · May 6, 2017

And so South Carolina will remain the bastard child of the South East....

press1280 · May 7, 2017

jbrown50 said:
Hopefully the Senate can muster enough votes to amend it back to the original intent, but then it would likely have to go back to the House for their approval, correct? Hopefully there's enough time.

I hope so but from what I hear the Senate is the one that keeps killing many of the pro gun bills off. Constitutional carry has already passed the House and now seems roadblocked in the Senate, along with the Senate's own version.
I don't know their Senate rules but last year the Georgia/NC reciprocity bill kept getting delayed over and over again while the same anti-gun Senator seemed to be able to conduct a one man filibuster. I suspect similar shenanigans are in order for these bills which are much stronger than that one.

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