Black aces semi autos

arbud · Jan 15, 2022

Anyone have a black aces 12ga semi auto. How does it cycle slower rounds. Is it gas or inertia. What model do you have and like or dislike. thanks

Maki · Jan 15, 2022

I've seen too many negative reviews on their guns to purchase one anymore, and I die hard wanted one of their lever actions. Held one (lever) in 2020 at the Fredricksburg Gun Show and the action was wobbly and felt like it would fall apart if it was actually shot. There's also this video on their Semi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZi3rDHYJEU

mopar92 · Jan 15, 2022

Junk with a capital 7. Avoid like the pneumonic plague

joppaj · Jan 15, 2022

I've known several people who bought one. I've never known anyone who bought a second one...

undisputedOSU14 · Jan 16, 2022

I have not heard good things and I don’t regret passing

jcutonilli · Jan 16, 2022

arbud said:
Anyone have a black aces 12ga semi auto. How does it cycle slower rounds. Is it gas or inertia. What model do you have and like or dislike. thanks

Maki said:
I've seen too many negative reviews on their guns to purchase one anymore, and I die hard wanted one of their lever actions. Held one (lever) in 2020 at the Fredricksburg Gun Show and the action was wobbly and felt like it would fall apart if it was actually shot. There's also this video on their Semi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZi3rDHYJEU

mopar92 said:
Junk with a capital 7. Avoid like the pneumonic plague

joppaj said:
I've known several people who bought one. I've never known anyone who bought a second one...

undisputedOSU14 said:
I have not heard good things and I don’t regret passing

I have seen a number of positive reviews. I believe they use a gas system. The reviews I have seen indicate that it will cycle slower rounds. Even the referenced youtube video demonstrates that it can be quite reliable.

The biggest downside seems to be that it is a budget shotgun and the fit and finish is not as good as higher priced shotguns. This appears to be what caused the failure in the unrealistic test shown in the video.

There certainly are better semiauto shotguns that you will pay a lot more for. For the price, it seems to do a reasonable job. For slower rounds, it may even work better than some more expensive shotguns. YMMV.

balttigger · Jan 16, 2022

I have the FD12 bullpup and have no complaints. It only ever burped once with a failure to fully eject, which was solved easily and quickly and has not hiccuped since.
That said, I have only ever ran slugs and 00 buck through it - no low brass.

I tipped it with a JMAC muzzle brake, which took a little bit to get the proper insert.

Squaregrouper · Jan 16, 2022

balttigger said:
I have the FD12 bullpup and have no complaints. It only ever burped once with a failure to fully eject, which was solved easily and quickly and has not hiccuped since.
That said, I have only ever ran slugs and 00 buck through it - no low brass.

I tipped it with a JMAC muzzle brake, which took a little bit to get the proper insert.

I too have a FD12 Bullpup. It isn't a Benelli and never will be, but you get a hell of a lot of gun for the $500 price tag. It reliably eats anything 1250fps and faster. 1200fps and below will jam every 9-10rds.
I have not fired any other of their offerings.

Ammo Jon · Jan 16, 2022

Haven’t shot mine, just picked up another 10 rd mag for mine and I have a 20rd drum waiting in VA for it.

Squaregrouper · Jan 19, 2022

Ammo Jon said:
Haven’t shot mine, just picked up another 10 rd mag for mine and I have a 20rd drum waiting in VA for it.

I will ask you for the 10th time... How are you going to shoot the FD12 with a drum? It would be very uncomfortable to say the least.

Ammo Jon · Jan 19, 2022

squaregrouper said:
I will ask you for the 10th time... How are you going to shoot the FD12 with a drum? It would be very uncomfortable to say the least.

Carefully

Squaregrouper · Jan 19, 2022

squaregrouper said:
I will ask you for the 10th time... How are you going to shoot the FD12 with a drum? It would be very uncomfortable to say the least.

Ammo Jon said:
Carefully

Have you ever rested a cantaloupe in your armpit while shooting a 12 gauge? That is what I'm picturing.

Ammo Jon · Jan 19, 2022

squaregrouper said:
Have you ever rested a cantaloupe in your armpit while shooting a 12 gauge? That is what I'm picturing.

Honeydew and a Shockwave.

Ammo Jon · Feb 5, 2022

Definitely not the most ergonomic

ericoak · Feb 5, 2022

jcutonilli said:
I have seen a number of positive reviews. I believe they use a gas system. The reviews I have seen indicate that it will cycle slower rounds. Even the referenced youtube video demonstrates that it can be quite reliable.

The biggest downside seems to be that it is a budget shotgun and the fit and finish is not as good as higher priced shotguns. This appears to be what caused the failure in the unrealistic test shown in the video.

There certainly are better semiauto shotguns that you will pay a lot more for. For the price, it seems to do a reasonable job. For slower rounds, it may even work better than some more expensive shotguns. YMMV.

I have never heard of fit and finish causing a failure. Fit and finish is describing the aesthetics', not the function. Does the wood stock seamlessly tie into the metal. Is the machining on the exterior straight. Are there tool marks.

Fl1p · Feb 5, 2022

I had one for a brief period, couldn’t get it to cycle reliably with buckshot or lighter loads. Ended up giving it to a friend to tinker with. Companies change for the better sometimes, I’m willing to give them another shot, but not really willing to pay for one right now.

Squaregrouper · Feb 5, 2022

squaregrouper said:
Have you ever rested a cantaloupe in your armpit while shooting a 12 gauge? That is what I'm picturing.

Ammo Jon said:
Definitely not the most ergonomic

SkiPatrolDude · Feb 5, 2022

Lol that looks so ridiculous.

My offer stands that if that thing cycles an entire drum without jamming, lunch is on me

Squaregrouper · Feb 5, 2022

SkiPatrolDude said:
Lol that looks so ridiculous.

My offer stands that if that thing cycles an entire drum without jamming, lunch is on me

If the offer stands for my FD12 as well, you have a deal.

https://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=6557856&postcount=40

Ammo Jon · Feb 5, 2022

SkiPatrolDude said:
Lol that looks so ridiculous.

My offer stands that if that thing cycles an entire drum without jamming, lunch is on me

I love sushi but I’ll take it on a plate

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