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- May 5, 2010
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In the end, the only thing that matters is YOUR happiness with your choice. Buy what you want and don't look back.
Because pretty soon you'll be buying more of them.
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alucard0822
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Unless you hate the ASR and KeyMo mount systems, I don't see why you wouldn't put the Hybrid on your list for a rifle suppressor. While it's on the heavier side, it handles almost everything caliber-wise, and you can even stuff an Omega anchor brake on the front if you're into that. With a $200 tax stamp involved, this is definitely one of the times to think about stretching (and I don't usually say that).
Then again, if you're like me, one became two became five for me, so you'll probably have a chance to do this again.
I'm poking around looking to pick one up after the holidays, the Hybrid 46 looks pretty cool, nice to be able to use it with 9mm, 223, 300BO and 7.62 rifle platforms. Can use it with a handgun too, but it's pretty big, probably just enough fun to get me to pick up a smaller/lighter pistol can down the road.
I think suppressing pistols is a very different problem than suppressing long guns, given the issues with sight height, barrel movement, relative length, etc. IMHO, the Hybrid is pretty much an awesome long gun suppressor, but is not what I would choose for a pistol. I guess I'm not really sold on pistol suppressors in general.
The line-up I chose was:
Rimfire rifles: SiCo Sparrow w/ Gemtech QDA 22 mount
Rimfire pistol: TI Tac65 direct thread
Shotgun: Salvo 12
PCCs: SiCo Octane 9 w/ 3lug
Rifles: SiCo Hybrid w/ ASR or KEYMO (haven't decided which yet, since it's still in NFA hell)
I think the only thing I'm really interested in at this point is a Maxim 9 - preferably whatever the second gen version turns out to be.
Mike OTDP
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- Feb 12, 2008
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Back to the OP...never skimp on a suppressor. Between tax stamp, fingerprinting, transfer fees, and so on, you'll have $300-$325 spent before you put a dime into actually buying the suppressor. And that overhead is fixed...you'll pay the same whether you are buying the most advanced can on the market or a pipe with a couple of washers in it.
Looking at silencershop.com there are, obviously, tons of 5.56 silencers. Is it safe to say price is going to dictate quality. I'm guessing upper hundreds to the lower thousand range is what you need to get a quality one? Also are certain ones not a good match with certain AR's?
rayrevolver
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- Jul 26, 2012
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I would say price is not a major factor, in general-ish. haha. It really boils down to what you want. Weight? Length? Maximum suppression? Multiple hosts? Full Auto?
If you sort the 5.56 cans by price the cheapest on the list is the Radical. That is probably the only can on the list I would NOT consider. Too heavy and for $0-$45 more you get into the Griffin Spartan 3 for direct thread and the YHM Turbo. Both these options are good for $400-$445.
Man, this is pretty complicated. If you are crazy about weight, then find a Brevis Ultra and pay the price.
I have a few here and there and would love a direct thread 556 like the Spartan 3 for a lightweight build. I have a Trek and its great, but heavy.
OH - don't forget that cans like the Sig are much heavier than advertised. There is a thread on ARF where people weighed their cans. Just an FYI.
Prioritize what you think you want. Set a price. Research. Ask the interweb.
And buy! The waiting sucks, but sucks worse when you watch from the sidelines for too long.
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alucard0822
For great Justice
cool. My main want is to build an 8"ish 300BO SBR with a suppressor inside a 14" handguard. Would like to be able to use it on a 9mm PCC, and possibly a couple other rifles. I'm not sold on handgun supressors either, but the ability to slap one on a pistol with a piston,, and the included neilson device is cool, and if nothing else I can try it out on a pistol without going through all the crap for a 2nd suppressor. The fun budget is limited, and most of it goes to competition stuff, not range/SD stuff. While I see the value of caliber specific supressors, the Hybrid, or the Griffon Optimus seem like a good way to try it out on a few plattforms, and decide weither it's worth the trouble to get a more specific suppressor.
- May 5, 2010
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I think I've decided on the Rugged Razor.
It's a bit more expensive than the Sig, but I like their lifetime UNCONDITIONAL warranty. Even if I'm at fault they relate or replace for free.
My only concern is that Rugges is a new company that could fold, leaving the warranty meaningless. Sig will probably be around forever, but their warranty is not unconditional.
Thoughts?
It's a bit more expensive than the Sig, but I like their lifetime UNCONDITIONAL warranty. Even if I'm at fault they relate or replace for free.
My only concern is that Rugges is a new company that could fold, leaving the warranty meaningless. Sig will probably be around forever, but their warranty is not unconditional.
Thoughts?
Rob R.
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The AAC SDN 7.62 is $399 on sale I think Capitol Armory
I am personally going with the dead air sandman K or S before months end along with a SilenceroCo Omega 30 cal next year
Have to really look into feedback about these “lifetime warranties” and the fact that some of these companies could very well not exist in 1-2yrs+
Ton of great choices here in the past 1-2yrs, if I’m looking for a Suppressor I don’t think Sig would be anywhere on my radar..
I’ve heard good things about the Rugged, they recently had a deal but since expired on the 1st
The AAC SDN 7.62 is $399 on sale I think Capitol Armory
I am personally going with the dead air sandman K or S before months end along with a SilenceroCo Omega 30 cal next year
Have to really look into feedback about these “lifetime warranties” and the fact that some of these companies could very well not exist in 1-2yrs+
Ton of great choices here in the past 1-2yrs, if I’m looking for a Suppressor I don’t think Sig would be anywhere on my radar..
I’ve heard good things about the Rugged, they recently had a deal but since expired on the 1st
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Yeah, that's a concern of mine.
Still, the same could happen to anyone besides the big names, and even some of them, like AAC, might be going away eventually.
The AAC is definitely a no go by the way. I don't like the latch design failures.
It's down to the Razor, Recce 7, or Sig SRD.
I think you'd be happy with any of the three, but personally I like Rugged's warranty and muzzle device options the best. Given the price difference, I would have a hard time passing up on the SRD though. Then again I set out to buy two suppressors this year and instead bought six, so my advice is maybe not the best.
- May 5, 2010
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Will shorter K style cans still make 300blk subs really quiet?
- May 5, 2010
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I'm ready to buy the Rugged at this point but I'm hesitant because I'm not sure just how quiet it will be from a short can.
The Rugged Surge isn't THAT much more than the Razor, and in its short configuration it is only about an inch longer and 2 ounces heavier. And you've got the longer configuration as well for extra suppression. But you're edging up toward a bunch of other great suppressors in a similar price category. Or even two good ones that do different things and are on a really good sale. Probably best to buy five or six just to play it safe. Get your analysis paralysis out of the way on the first one, then really down to business.
All kidding aside, here is a suppressor comparison document from the awesome folk at NFATalk that you might find helpful. Or information overload.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Cewkqn0NlMNYeSJB6oFWld_ixuYhWIdGOt69hXFanqs/edit?usp=sharing
- May 5, 2010
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I guess what I'm trying to figure out is if the Razor would be pretty loud like a Sandman-K that just takes the edge off, or if it's still pretty darn quiet.
I don't care much about 5.56 since it's hard to suppress anyway. But I want decent reduction with 300BLK supersonic and that "bolt is louder than the gunshot" sound with subs.
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