- Jan 31, 2009
- 3,285
If there is any good news, it looks like the HQL review board bill didn't cross over so really only two bills left to focus on in senate, 740 & 786.
20190314 - HB786 JUD Amendments
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Well I know I won't ever be in that situation, but I also know mistakes happen. What I then suggest is that you politely refrain from discussing your day, and if it goes beyond that, which it will, you keep your mouth shut like the well trained political prisoner and let your lawyer do all of the talking.
Or you can do it your way...I don't care, you do you.
IANAL either
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They can ram it through if they want to. Leadership can put enough pressure on Rules to get late (post-crossover) bills pushed through and into requisite committees.
All depends on how bad they want it.
- Nov 11, 2009
- 30,903
I don't see the GA tossing the HPRB out; it provides several months' worth of infringement that the appellant has to go through before MSP automatically shuttles him to a hearing with an administrative law judge.
The only party really interested in ditching the HPRB is Bloomberg's Cat Ladies, Hogan's Redshirts.
danb
dont be a dumbass
In case anyone missed it, Frosh got pwned in 4th circuit court today.
This is what is going to happen when MD carry permit scheme hits the Supreme Court. MD legislature will be making a massive donation to all of our favorite groups when (not if) MD loses to pay for legal fees.
The HPRB will go away soon, just not the way Frosh and his lackeys think it will - more like in front of a hostile 4th circuit court. Moms can stomp and demand whatever they want, but Bloomberg does not even have the courage to run for President himself, so who cares.
Be sure to remind your delegates of this. With the New York case in front of the Supreme Court in Oct, chances are high this will all go down before their next election.
This is what is going to happen when MD carry permit scheme hits the Supreme Court. MD legislature will be making a massive donation to all of our favorite groups when (not if) MD loses to pay for legal fees.
The HPRB will go away soon, just not the way Frosh and his lackeys think it will - more like in front of a hostile 4th circuit court. Moms can stomp and demand whatever they want, but Bloomberg does not even have the courage to run for President himself, so who cares.
Be sure to remind your delegates of this. With the New York case in front of the Supreme Court in Oct, chances are high this will all go down before their next election.
Chief - just a cautionary reminder - unless a bill is voted unfavorable in committee or voted down on the floor, anything can happen between now and Sine Die.
AND how much pushback they get. We must keep the pressure on. #WWNC
Actually I suspect that Bloomberg and his Red Trolls couldn't care less about the HPRB. That's Jumpin' Jenny's hill to die on, and the Big Reds will let her. They really don't care very much about a p1ss-ant, nearly neutered board in a deep blue state.
If the bills make 1st reading by the bill introduction date (27th Legislative day in the Senate and 31st Legislative day in the House), then no rules committee for them, and they are assigned to the committee responsible for the section of Maryland annotated code, the bill is trying to affect.
If a bill does not make 1st reader by bill introduction day, then it must go to respective rules committee to be passed on to committee. Again they are assigned to the committee responsible for the section of Maryland annotated code the bill is trying to affect.
If a bill crosses over before crossover day, then it gets treated just a bill passed by bill introduction day in its originating house. If a bill crosses over after crossover day, then they go to the respective rules committee to be voted on and either passed on to 1st Reader and it's respective committee or it dies.
In all of the above cases, neither Bush nor Miller can have the bill "assigned to any committee they wish", since each committee is responsible for set sections of the Maryland annotated code.
First you’d have to do something that would get police to search your vehicle or person (if you had it on you). If it had risen to the level of a reasonable search, likely you are in deep crap already. Then you’d need a DA who’d want to prosecute. Then a jury who’d be willing to convict.
But let’s face it, many of those intermediate stops are costing your time, money and some amount of freedom along the way.
Would I stop for gas if I needed to? Yes. But yeah, I am not going to swing by the grocery store to pick up a few items when my wife calls me when I am at the range. I am also going to try to be delivery to avoid needing to stop. Which means if I am going to the range for a few hours, I’ll bring a couple of snack bars and a canteen and take a piss in the club house before driving home rather than have to stop to take a leak or grab something to eat.
I’ll also try to avoid needing to get gas if I can reasonably help it.
I think if you can easily prove you were going hunting or shooting, gunsmith, etc. then I doubt a DA would even try to prosecute you and I can’t imagine a jury convicting you. But the more off the explicit exceptions you go, the more likely it is you’ll get your butt nailed if you ever were discovered to be transporting a handgun.
Pretty much, yes.
Yep, no bill is truely dead until midnight on Sine Die.
MigraineMan
Defenestration Specialist
<heavy sigh>
You are welcome to think that the DA's office is full of reasonable prosecutors, but I'm willing to bet there's at least one ladder-climbing Frosh-wannabe who will aggressively pursue a platform based on "you made a trip from your house to the gas station, where you were arrested by Officer Friendly. 'To the gas station' is not a permitted destination per 4-203 (People's Exhibit 1). Your intentions beyond that are irrelevant."
Good luck if your car breaks down or is in an accident, and you are forced to divert by circumstances beyond your control. Your SO brings the minivan to retrieve you. A see-something say-something passer-by drops a dime on you, because gunz. You never made it to the range. Transporting from <$CURBSIDE_LOCATION> to your residence is also not on the approved reasons list. And to top it off, your SO is now implicated.
Yay Maryland!
Find me one case where someone was someone was arrested or prosecuted for transporting a handgun illegally because they stopped for gas or food to/from the range. My guess is you can’t. You do it your way, I’ll do it mine. I refuse to submit to BGOS.
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There is no case law on this. That’s why the forum is always full of spirited discussion on this topic.
It is a personal decision on how to proceed based on how much risk you are willing to assume.
It is a personal decision on how to proceed based on how much risk you are willing to assume.
Boondock Saint
Ultimate Member
ziptiespec
Active Member
I have a question about the most appropriate action to take in regards to this bill as well as the others that have crossed over. Yesterday I received an e-mail from NRA-ILA urging me to contact my state senator. This morning, while driving to work, I did just that. The nice lady that I spoke with informed me that the senator isn't on the committee currently reviewing the bill, but she'd take note of my opinion. I'm not concerned about how my senator will vote as she's supported the 2A unfailingly in the past. I do question the efficacy of the NRA-ILA's call to action however. Isn't it more effective to be contacting the members of the committee where the bill is currently being reviewed?
rockstarr
Major Deplorable
doesn't the collectors letter give you a bit of leeway here?
The only purpose of the Designated Collector letter is to show that you have begged permission from MSP to be permitted to purchase more than one regulated firearm in any given 30-day cycle of time.
