AAGVTF Opportunity: Advice Needed

hillbilly grandpa · Oct 26, 2019

I have been asked to make a presention on Firearm Safety at the November meeting of the Anne Arundel County Gun Violence Task Force. I intend to focus on 1) Safety With Firearms, 2) Safety When Dealing with Firearm Encounters/Confrontations, and 3) teaching safe practices for those not regularly encountering firearms. I will, of course, review the origins of the 2nd Amendment, and court cases that make it clear that the police have no duty to protect the private citizen. By the way, by the end of the year, approximately 1 out of every 777 Baltimore residents will have been shot during the year.

Here is the list of resources I have compiled so far. What have I missed?

NRA Training Programs
Refuse to Be A Victim
NRA School Shield Program
NRA Eddie Eagle GunSafe Program
CMP
Project Appleseed
Boy Scouts
4-H
Local Gun Clubs
NSSF
FASTER
Local Gun Store Trainings
Sandy Spring Promise
USCCA
National African American Gun Association

Also, any suggestions for other points I should consider? Thanks for your input.

Engine4 · Oct 26, 2019

I don't have any worthwhile input, but thank you for taking this on.

hillbilly grandpa · Oct 26, 2019

Engine4 said:
I don't have any worthwhile input, but thank you for taking this on.

Thanks for the support. I think they're going to be a little surprised by the presentation. That's why I want to make sure my list is as comprehensive as possible.

Stoveman · Oct 26, 2019

The Well Armed Woman

Squaregrouper · Oct 26, 2019

Pink Pistols

J Beard · Oct 26, 2019

Glaron · Oct 26, 2019

Court cases, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1976377/posts

In a free society the responsibility is on you. To remove the right to defend infers we are not in a free society.

hodgepodge · Oct 26, 2019

This is going to be interesting.

hillbilly grandpa · Oct 26, 2019

Glaron said:
Court cases, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1976377/posts

In a free society the responsibility is on you. To remove the right to defend infers we are not in a free society.

The court rulings are numerous and make it abundantly clear, as the currently available patch says " No One Is Coming. It's Up To Us." My question to the task force will be this: Given that we are not entitled to police protection, and that this group favors increasing restrictions on law abiding citizens, where should we turn for protection?

Mike OTDP · Oct 26, 2019

Some advice, from a man who has given a whole lot of professional papers both here in the USA and in Europe...

1. I'm assuming you're using Powerpoint. Same principles apply if you aren't, though.
2. Find out how much time you have. One slide per minute.
3. Keep the slides simple. Try for no more than five lines, five words per line. That's a guide, not a hard rule, but it's a good one.
4. Focus on safety. That's what you're scheduled to talk about. Don't waste half your time on 2A legal theory.
5. Keep it simple. Remember that half your audience can just barely spell "firearm". They have no idea how the things work.

Things I'd focus on:

a. Firearms are simple objects. Even children can be taught to handle them safely.
b. Follow the directions. Printed, and online resources. The old "I didn't know it was loaded" was and is total BS.
c. Four basic rules of safety.
d. Lead is not a problem. Bullet lead comes out of the ground, goes back into the ground, does not migrate. And most ranges have a program to dig the lead out of the impact area...shooters were recycling before anyone else had heard of the idea.

hillbilly grandpa · Oct 26, 2019

Mike OTDP said:
Some advice, from a man who has given a whole lot of professional papers both here in the USA and in Europe...

1. I'm assuming you're using Powerpoint. Same principles apply if you aren't, though.
2. Find out how much time you have. One slide per minute.
3. Keep the slides simple. Try for no more than five lines, five words per line. That's a guide, not a hard rule, but it's a good one.
4. Focus on safety. That's what you're scheduled to talk about. Don't waste half your time on 2A legal theory.
5. Keep it simple. Remember that half your audience can just barely spell "firearm". They have no idea how the things work.

Things I'd focus on:

a. Firearms are simple objects. Even children can be taught to handle them safely.
b. Follow the directions. Printed, and online resources. The old "I didn't know it was loaded" was and is total BS.
c. Four basic rules of safety.
d. Lead is not a problem. Bullet lead comes out of the ground, goes back into the ground, does not migrate. And most ranges have a program to dig the lead out of the impact area...shooters were recycling before anyone else had heard of the idea.

Thanks for the advice. Your coaching on format is right on. Having prepared and delivered multiple presentations I've confirmed your advice.

your Item #4: It's important to note that this "task force" is in fact a stacked deck. Anti's predominate; groups amenable to firearms were specifically excluded. That's what makes my selection to do this pivotal. In this context "safety" begs for an expansive interpretation.

I really like your point about lead removal, and who are some of the real leaders in environmental stewardship. I think I'll attempt to frame that somehow.

Bob A · Oct 26, 2019

hillbilly grandpa said:
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I really like your point about lead removal, and who are some of the real leaders in environmental stewardship.

Hunters have been stewards of the environment long before there was a word for "ecology" or "environment".

TheBert · Oct 26, 2019

Put a rifle in somewhere behind you but, visible to your audience. Get permission to bring it first. And don't touch it the entire time of your presentation. Tell them that firearms are not dangerous until a human picks it up.

Occam · Oct 26, 2019

TheBert said:
Tell them that firearms are not dangerous until a human picks it up.

No, tell them that they’re not dangerous at all. Only a reckless or malicious person is dangerous, whether it’s with a gun, a car, or anything else.

Matlack · Oct 26, 2019

My suggestion. If you have never done this before, then this probably isnt the best choice to be your first. Find someone who is fully knowledgeable and may already have a presentation developed and presented it before.

Stoveman · Oct 26, 2019

Matlack said:
My suggestion. If you have never done this before, then this probably isnt the best choice to be your first. Find someone who is fully knowledgeable and may already have a presentation developed and presented it before.

This is not HG's first rodeo.

jonnyl · Oct 26, 2019

Great opportunity, good luck! The only things that occurred to me to work in if you're going to touch on the safety of different types of firearms is something about semi automatic guns having been around for over 100 years. People seem to have the idea is some kind of new thing. Also, I'd mention that people usually take their home defense queues from the police. It used to be a six shot revolver or a shotgun, and now it's a semi pistol or patrol type rifle.

Mike OTDP · Oct 27, 2019

jonnyl said:
Also, I'd mention that people usually take their home defense queues from the police. It used to be a six shot revolver or a shotgun, and now it's a semi pistol or patrol type rifle.

Agree 100% on this. If it's OK for the police, it's OK for the public.

Glaron · Oct 27, 2019

Saw this, Hyped up fear.

https://newstarget.com/2019-10-26-p...wnership-gets-student-banned-from-school.html

MDFF2008 · Oct 27, 2019

Def include JFPO and Pink Pistols. Maybe even highlight those organizations. They are a great way to show that firearm ownership isn't just for straight white males. Maybe also include Maj Toure and his work with Black Guns Matter.

Also, I always advise caution when talking about the police thing, especially if there are police in the audience. Most police officers are good and decent people and will do everything they can to protect you. Coming at it from the direction of "The police will generally do everything they can do help you, but if somethin happens and their are no units avaliable, or response time is delayed, and the person breaks in or harms you, the court have ruled you cannot sue the police."

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