Faxon ARAK-21 Upper Group Buy

Pastryslayer · Feb 11, 2014

There aren't a lot of options for folding an ar15. The easiest to find are:

Law Tactical (which is the one you can fold on a regular AR, but cannot shoot it unless the stock is extended):

https://www.lawtactical.com/

Hera Arms:

http://www.lanworldinc.com/index.ph...ategory_id=8&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=140

And Ace, which require an AR adapter plate, a hinge, and an AR stock adapter or some other style stock (like theirs or an AK type):

http://riflestocks.com/store/page16.html

Or go all in one like the AGP rig:

http://www.agparms.com/agp-arms-ar-15-folding-stock/

I have no experience with any of these other than the Ace products I have on my AK. For what its worth Hera magazines have taken a lot of negative criticism. No idea about their stock adapter. Also, I have read that the Law Tactical adapter doesn't work with a Magpul UBR unless you notch the stock a bit to make room for the hinge when folded.

ETA: Stormwerks makes a hinge that works with Ace products and some feel is superior and easier to get. They look the same to me, if appearance counts.

http://stormwerkz.com/stock-folding-mechanisms/

TxAggie · Feb 11, 2014

Crap, I just saw this thread today!

Very slick setup.

Since there's no requirement for a buffer tube, could you put the 12.5" on a lower and classify it as a pistol?

ThawMyTongue · Feb 11, 2014

TxAggie said:
Crap, I just saw this thread today!

Very slick setup.

Since there's no requirement for a buffer tube, could you put the 12.5" on a lower and classify it as a pistol?

Yup, as long as the lower was transferred as "other" and has not been built into a rifle.

Just get one of these for the buffer tube hole and call it a day:

http://www.brownells.com/rifle-part...are/ar15-22lr-st22-pistol-plug-prod54594.aspx

TxAggie · Feb 11, 2014

ThawMyTongue said:
Yup, as long as the lower was transferred as "other" and has not been built into a rifle.

Just get one of these for the buffer tube hole and call it a day:

http://www.brownells.com/rifle-part...are/ar15-22lr-st22-pistol-plug-prod54594.aspx

Sweet! Thanks for the info, I think 2A did my lowers as other category.

That being the case, can you still get an AR lower and list it as a pistol? I'd hate to give up one of my lowers if I don't have to.

razorV23 · Feb 11, 2014

TxAggie said:
Crap, I just saw this thread today!

Very slick setup.

Since there's no requirement for a buffer tube, could you put the 12.5" on a lower and classify it as a pistol?

If you want one, let me know and I'll call and try to add to the order.

Pastryslayer · Feb 11, 2014

Did they happen to give any kind of ETA? I know, Day One and I'm already a pest...

razorV23 · Feb 11, 2014

Pastryslayer said:
Did they happen to give any kind of ETA? I know, Day One and I'm already a pest...

4wks

KRONIK27 · Feb 11, 2014

Interesting, How soon do you need the funds. My Refund is about 2 weeks out.... Totally interested in a 12.5" 5.56.

razorV23 · Feb 11, 2014

KRONIK27 said:
Interesting, How soon do you need the funds. My Refund is about 2 weeks out.... Totally interested in a 12.5" 5.56.

Need money now, I ordered the original order yesterday

KRONIK27 · Feb 11, 2014

razorV23 said:
Need money now, I ordered the original order yesterday

Darn-nit all find awesome toys when I don't have the funds.

KRONIK27 · Feb 11, 2014

Any plans on doing another round of Orders in the future?

razorV23 · Feb 11, 2014

If we can get 5 more I do another order.

KRONIK27 · Feb 11, 2014

razorV23 said:
If we can get 5 more I do another order.

Cool, that will buy me some time and what color I would want. Hopefully the guys that get 12.5" uppers would post pics afterwards. I'll subscribe to this thread for updates. Thanks....

TxAggie · Feb 11, 2014

razorV23 said:
If you want one, let me know and I'll call and try to add to the order.

Want, yes.

Afford, not now. But thank you for offering.

anil · Feb 12, 2014

I have a similar issue. I was interested, but still hurting from the buying frenzy last year. Maybe we could do another one of these in 2015.

Pastryslayer · Feb 14, 2014

Doh. Got my folding stock adapter in the mail last night, but there is a gouge in the top, through the finish and into the metal. It wouldn't be a big deal except a) it invites corrosion and b) for near $200 it really ought to be perfect.

Waiting on a reply from the dealer.

razorV23 · Feb 14, 2014

Who did you go with?

Pastryslayer · Feb 15, 2014

Law Tactical, via eBay. :\

Its going back for a replacement. Too expensive to take anything less than new condition. I'll eat the shipping, but oh well.

I see a couple on there below retail.

Fyi it looks like a very solid unit, but I'm reserving judgment until I can mount and test it.

Ab_Normal · Feb 15, 2014

-Z/28- said:
Exactly what I was wondering.

Because the lower is the part that's a firearm, I believe it technically is an AR15.

And that folks is why the receiver by itself is NOT a banned assault weapon according to the law.

Pastryslayer · Feb 17, 2014

One week down...

Today I snagged the flash suppressor/suppressor mount. Probably order a two stage trigger for my current lower this week too. Then its a matter of deciding which stock I want on this thing. Leaning UBR.

Side note: the "legalize SBRs in WA" bill has until tomorrow to clear the senate. Here's hoping...

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