MOA help

cherocapri · Nov 18, 2017

If I am sighting in an optic with 0.5 MOA adjustments and I want to site at 25 yards would it be

1 moa = 16 clicks?

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outrider58 · Nov 18, 2017

Wouldn't it be 6?

ascorb · Nov 18, 2017

You are probably right, heading to freestate now to sight in. Tha ks!

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Tungsten · Nov 18, 2017

8 clicks

it is 16 if you have 1/4 MOA turret adjustment

Blacksmith101 · Nov 18, 2017

Minute of angle is an angular measurement, on an optic where 0.5 MOA per click it is 0.05 MOA regardless of distance. One minute of angle will move the point of impact (a lineal measurement) a different amount at different distances, for practical purposes 1 MOA is approximately 1 inch at 100 yards. Therefore 1 MOA at 100 yds. = 1"; 1 MOA at 200 yds. = 2"; so 1 MOA at 25 yds = 1/4".
https://www.nssf.org/shooting/minute-angle-moa/

iH8DemLibz · Nov 18, 2017

Tungsten said:
8 clicks

it is 16 if you have 1/4 MOA turret adjustment

This is correct.

TheBulge · Nov 18, 2017

cherocapri said:
If I am sighting in an optic with 0.5 MOA adjustments and I want to site at 25 yards would it be

1 moa = 16 clicks?

NO... 1 MOA is 2 clicks for your scope. It doesn't matter what distance.

If you mean 1 inch at 25 yard (4 MOA) then yes...8 clicks

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tkd4life · Nov 18, 2017

TheBulge said:
NO... 1 MOA is 2 clicks for your scope. It doesn't matter what distance.

If you mean 1 inch at 25 yard (4 MOA) then yes...8 clicks

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This. 1 Moa is 2 clicks no matter what. At 100 yds 1 Moa is about 1 inch. At 25 yds, it’s about .25 inches. 1 click at 25 yds is about .125 inches. It’s about .5 inches at 100.

outrider58 · Nov 18, 2017

Blacksmith101 said:
Minute of angle is an angular measurement, on an optic where 0.5 MOA per click it is 0.05 MOA regardless of distance. One minute of angle will move the point of impact (a lineal measurement) a different amount at different distances, for practical purposes 1 MOA is approximately 1 inch at 100 yards. Therefore 1 MOA at 100 yds. = 1"; 1 MOA at 200 yds. = 2"; so 1 MOA at 25 yds = 1/4".
https://www.nssf.org/shooting/minute-angle-moa/

This is true, but I don't think this is what he was after. I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I think he needed to know how many clicks equalled an inch @ 25 yds when 2 clicks (more or less) equalled an inch @100yds. That was the basis of my answer. Plus, I spent the whole day in a tree and my mind was mush.

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hit3961 · Nov 18, 2017

Set up a tape measure at a known distance and use
A bore site to track the scope ..

Major03 · Nov 18, 2017

outrider58 said:
This is true, but I don't think this is what he was after. I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I think he needed to know how many clicks equalled an inch @ 25 yds when 2 clicks (more or less) equalled an inch @100yds. That was the basis of my answer. Plus, I spent the whole day in a tree and my mind was mush.

So, for everyone else, stop it with the MOA stuff. I don't think he was looking for MOA on an AR pistol build.

While I’m sure you’re right, I think the responses were on target

It’s important to understand the concept that MOA is an angular measurement and that each click moves the strike of the round different distances depending on the distance to the target.

I’m guessing the OP will eventually want to shoot beyond 25 yds and may want to adjust his scope, so while a simple answer to his question would take care of him today...tomorrow he might still be confused.

I like teaching concepts

ascorb · Nov 18, 2017

I am forever confused but I found an app called scoop tool that literally just outs the number of clicks to meet my goal, just add scope moa per click and distance and angle and boom

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Biggfoot44 · Nov 18, 2017

Until you discover the rated number of moa per click is "nominal " often as not except on high end target type scopes. But yes , a good starting point , just don't expect perfection w/o real world testing.

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Blacksmith101 · Nov 18, 2017

Major03 said:
While I’m sure you’re right, I think the responses were on target

It’s important to understand the concept that MOA is an angular measurement and that each click moves the strike of the round different distances depending on the distance to the target.

I’m guessing the OP will eventually want to shoot beyond 25 yds and may want to adjust his scope, so while a simple answer to his question would take care of him today...tomorrow he might still be confused.

I like teaching concepts

Teach a man to fish.

outrider58 · Nov 19, 2017

Major03 said:
While I’m sure you’re right, I think the responses were on target

It’s important to understand the concept that MOA is an angular measurement and that each click moves the strike of the round different distances depending on the distance to the target.

I’m guessing the OP will eventually want to shoot beyond 25 yds and may want to adjust his scope, so while a simple answer to his question would take care of him today...tomorrow he might still be confused.

I like teaching concepts

You are right, of course. This is a SHOOTING FORUM after all.

ascorb · Nov 19, 2017

Ugh, I wish they had a class on zeroing and and the math behind all of this. I just use a calculator lol. I would love to learn these things in a deeper sense. I dont zero much at all cause optics are expensive but if I were stuck in an apocalyptic scenario I would probably need to know these in the field lol. I'm just another basic shooter lol.

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hit3961 · Nov 19, 2017

ascorb said:
Ugh, I wish they had a class on zeroing and and the math behind all of this. I just use a calculator lol. I would love to learn these things in a deeper sense. I dont zero much at all cause optics are expensive but if I were stuck in an apocalyptic scenario I would probably need to know these in the field lol. I'm just another basic shooter lol.

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How many moa scope?
The math for the bullet drop is usually on the box pmc xtac

outrider58 · Nov 19, 2017

Here's something that may help. Note that 1MOA @ 100 yds is an inch, @ 1000yds. it is 10 inches.

https://www.nssf.org/shooting/minute-angle-moa/

Given that most scopes and electronic sights are "click adjustable" and in your case one click @ 100yds=one half inch. In sighting scopes for zero, all you really need to remember is this:

If your scope says 1 click= 1/2" at 100yds, if you cut that distance in half(50yds) you need to double the number of clicks to equal the same value. @50yds 2 clicks=1/2"

Now, lets take it the other way. Say your rifle is zeroed at 100yds, but you want to zero it at 200yds. Your scope says 1 click=1/2" @ 100yds. Now, at 200yds, we need to use half the number of clicks to achieve the same result which means now that 1 click now equals 1 inch(1/2" @ 100yds=1" @200yds). I hope I haven't added more confusion.

Biggfoot44 · Nov 19, 2017

With respect Zeroing is simple. Calculating and dialing in changes for different distances can sometimes get complicated.

Added - Looks a little harsher written on the screen than I intended.

To restate for extra simple , w/o any theory, and presuming this is for .223 , some sort of AR-ish gun.

Perform basic boresighting . should be able to get windage pretty darn close , elevation is more variable , if only because of minir variations of center of optic distance above bore line .

With basic boresighting , you will definately bee on paper @ 25yds . Shot 3shot group . Readjust elevation with ballpark guestimate using 8 click per inch . That sould get you substantially closer .Another 3 shot, final tweek .

If you are trying for the proverbial battle zero of 25yd & 300 somthing yds , declare Victory.

( I would generally recomend a 50 & 200 zero , but that's a seperate eternal discussion . )

hit3961 · Nov 19, 2017

Biggfoot44 said:
With respect Zeroing is simple. Calculating and dialing in changes for different distances can sometimes get complicated.

Added - Looks a little harsher written on the screen than I intended.

To restate for extra simple , w/o any theory, and presuming this is for .223 , some sort of AR-ish gun.

Perform basic boresighting . should be able to get windage pretty darn close , elevation is more variable , if only because of minir variations of center of optic distance above bore line .

With basic boresighting , you will definately bee on paper @ 25yds . Shot 3shot group . Readjust elevation with ballpark guestimate using 8 click per inch . That sould get you substantially closer .Another 3 shot, final tweek .

If you are trying for the proverbial battle zero of 25yd & 300 somthing yds , declare Victory.

( I would generally recomend a 50 & 200 zero , but that's a seperate eternal discussion . )

I seconded the 50 & 200 meter zero.

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