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Old February 15th, 2018, 09:02 AM #11
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I have my version of a 6.5-06 it's called a 280. I have a Mauser in 8mm-06AI and .35-06 in my Whelen chambering to go along with my Garand.

It just seems that from 22-30cal is well represented except the .257
That is why I decided to go the 6.5-06 route. The 6.5 has a far better selection of bullets. It is easy to form from 25-06 brass, one pass over the expander, load & shoot. I think A Square has factory ammo for the 6.5-06.

From what I have read and been told by those who have 25-06 rifles, they either love them or hate them, they can be very finicky about the ammo they like. Even so, I'll probably add an early production Remington 700 Varmint Special in .25-06 to the collection eventually.

I have a .280 also and it is one of my favorite hunting rifles.
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That is why I decided to go the 6.5-06 route. The 6.5 has a far better selection of bullets. It is easy to form from 25-06 brass, one pass over the expander, load & shoot. I think A Square has factory ammo for the 6.5-06.

From what I have read and been told by those who have 25-06 rifles, they either love them or hate them, they can be very finicky about the ammo they like. Even so, I'll probably add an early production Remington 700 Varmint Special in .25-06 to the collection eventually.

I have a .280 also and it is one of my favorite hunting rifles.
A friend and I got our m700 25-06s together but he got the varmint special and Bipod. We spent many summers shooting groundhog for various farmers from Clarksville to Ijamsville. His could shoot 1/4 moa where my sporter profile 24" would keep 5/8-3/4 at 200yds. However he once made the mistake of hunting with it up in the Frederick watershed, was almost ready to throw it down the mountain by end of day.
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A friend and I got our m700 25-06s together but he got the varmint special and Bipod. We spent many summers shooting groundhog for various farmers from Clarksville to Ijamsville. His could shoot 1/4 moa where my sporter profile 24" would keep 5/8-3/4 at 200yds. However he once made the mistake of hunting with it up in the Frederick watershed, was almost ready to throw it down the mountain by end of day.
Mine is an old M700 with a standard sporter barrel. I had it bedded in a fiberglass stock right out of the box when I was young and eventually replaced that when it cracked with a laminated stock. I have toted that rifle many miles and it will shoot 1/2 moa with handloads all day long.

I prefer a heavy profile barrel, but sure not to lug around very far..
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Franken Mauser has determined oversize lead bullets are safe in his rifle according to my read. His basis is what? Has he determined the amount of lug set back prior to and after his testing or provided head expansion in the web area of the brass he was using and provide any data?
Mr Ackley was a known experimenter and may have just been trying to demonstrate an alternative to a re-barrel using lead bullets. He certainly was aware that setting the barrel back one thread could restore accuracy to rifles with a worn leade using jacketed bullets and provide an additional round count to an existing barrel.
I wouldn't worry about a .001 difference in a sound rifle using jacketed bullets. That could be inside the realm of manufacturing tolerances and the accumulated wear of any ordinary rifle barrel. Pull some some bullets and measure them, particularly in PPU ammo. Dont be surprised if you find out .311 bullets are the pill for your favorite o3 plinking rifle in random lots.
6.5 jap comes right to mind, a lot of Mauser manufactured barrels Mosins etc. are all found with variances in land and groove dimensions.
Attempting to use jacketed bullets over a significant measurement outside of .001 though I would try to avoid if accuracy was my concern for a dedicated purpose rifle unless there was an absolute need like a worn m17 that may respond to such a tactic. And they have a tighter bore than the often compared to 03 because of the number of grooves for the design spec are 5 and of equal width (lands and grooves) vs the four groove Springfield design of four grooves where they are three times as wide as the lands. Bore is tighter because the higher number of grooves (5) are opposite each other vs a land.
So I dont know whats best for anybodies rifle but before I tried switching anything up in relation to selecting alternative bullet diameter there are a lot of points to ponder prior to exposing ones self to an irrecoverable act of damaging an expensive rifle, wasting valuable resources like time and ammo or at the very least beating myself up to excessive recoil unnecessarily without verifying a few mechanical necessities first.
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