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Old October 12th, 2019, 08:34 AM #21
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I have checked with Buds and they require the long gun be shipped to an FFL.

Was hoping Buds could ship after paperwork is processed, but they require a local FFL for all out of state purchases. I was a bit confused because my previous out of state long gun purchases were face to face cash and carry. I guess the internet makes a difference.
Gun Control Act of 1968, as modified by Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986.

If you are in the shop out of state, you can receive and carry out, as long as the purchase is legal in the state it occurs AND in the state of residence of the buyer.

Since you are not in the shop, it must be shipped to an FFL for you to receive it from.

The difference is face to face versus shipped.

The CMP has a special exemption to this to ship the firearms they sell.
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Planning to purchase a new Golden boy. Not C&R. I have checked with Buds and they require the long gun be shipped to an FFL. I will transfer the funds to the recipient's account and let the entire transaction be his alone. So much for holiday morning surprises.

He is not prohibited, as he has previously purchased a long gun in his name alone. Was hoping Buds could ship after paperwork is processed, but they require a local FFL for all out of state purchases. I was a bit confused because my previous out of state long gun purchases were face to face cash and carry. I guess the internet makes a difference.
Why donít you you purchase from Budís and have them send to your FFL? You could then go and fill out the paperwork in your name. You can legally gift the rifle later. This would be legal.
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I ordered a rifle for my son a couple of years ago, this way:

Call vendor. Explain this will be a gift for son.

Order rifle. Pay for it with my credit card.
Have it shipped to local FFL under my son's name.
On his birthday, I gave him a card with a pic of the rifle and told him to go to ________'s gunshop and pick up his rifle.

He goes to FFL and does paperwork.

Never had a problem.
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That works at shops where they know you, and know your son . Walking in cold, * could * set off their spidey sense about a straw purchase .

If I don't have the knowledge of them sufficient to be confident to just hand it to them, I'm not giving them a firearm .
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Says in his original post that they both share the same residence. Simplest thing is to just go with them to a IP, order the long gun, OP pay and have recipient fill out the paperwork.
He mentions later his out of state face to face sales didn’t go through an FFL.

Maybe a bad assumption, but face to face generally implies a purchase/sale between private individuals. Not from a gun shop/FFL. Now and FFL can facilitate that out of state and it’s all kosher. If you don’t use an FFL and you are residents of different states, that violates GCA1968.

Face to face sales out of state (residents of separate states) without an FFL involved is a crime.

Actually a transfer itself is a crime. Could be a gift and it would still have to be through an FFL if not residents of the same state. Just wouldn’t apply in this gift instance.
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