current ATF wait time

daNattyFatty · Sep 14, 2019

My most recent F4 can was just pending sometime in July. From here on out, I’ll be doing eF1.

F this nonsense of 9+ months.

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Mike OTDP · Sep 14, 2019

Thinking about it, there might be an opportunity here...A suppressor manufacturer produces "80%" suppressor kits. They'll even do the markings for you. Nielsen devices sold separately (to lower parts count). eFile your Form 1, wait, and do final assembly.

44man · Sep 14, 2019

Mike OTDP said:
Thinking about it, there might be an opportunity here...A suppressor manufacturer produces "80%" suppressor kits. They'll even do the markings for you. Nielsen devices sold separately (to lower parts count). eFile your Form 1, wait, and do final assembly.

I love that idea!

I have a can in jail since Black Friday last year and it’s hard waiting a damn year for the atf, especially since I had 3 in jail at one time during that same time frame

danb · Sep 14, 2019

Mike OTDP said:
Thinking about it, there might be an opportunity here...A suppressor manufacturer produces "80%" suppressor kits. They'll even do the markings for you. Nielsen devices sold separately (to lower parts count). eFile your Form 1, wait, and do final assembly.

Maybe sell a polymer jig to drill out the holes in the baffles or end cap...

gre24ene · Sep 14, 2019

There are already companies that do exactly that. To include the jig for the cones.

lazarus · Sep 16, 2019

gre24ene said:
There are already companies that do exactly that. To include the jig for the cones.

Yes, they are called oil trap kits. And the ATF often ends up going after those companies even though they aren’t selling suppressors. If they’d lighten up a bit...

I’d love to file all the form 1s and then actually machine my own silencer with a “kit” I can be confident will be a workable and decent silencer (so long as I don’t mess up).

Hell I wouldn’t even mind if I filed a form 1, for the tax stamp and then could buy the kit.

gre24ene · Sep 16, 2019

My first ATF toy was a form 1 suppressor. I ordered the kit while I waited for my stamp. Once I got my stamp I drilled the baffles and finished the Valve stem retainers.

My F1 suppressor is as quiet as my Octane.

Ill try to find the video of me test firing it

alucard0822 · Sep 16, 2019

gre24ene said:
My first ATF toy was a form 1 suppressor. I ordered the kit while I waited for my stamp. Once I got my stamp I drilled the baffles and finished the Valve stem retainers.

My F1 suppressor is as quiet as my Octane.

Ill try to find the video of me test firing it

Have been eying up the "Ti select 1.125x6" 22 kit, supposedly produces a really nice 6oz, 115dB rimfire can with proper drilling/clipping. Lots of people form 1 them, and seem happy. Otherwise the new Griffin Resistance 22, but not looking forward to waiting another year for another can.
https://diversifiedmachine.us/shop/

W2D · Sep 21, 2019

What’s better than the FFL calling out of the blue on a Saturday morning?!!

(What the heck do they wan...OH HELL YEAH!)

Submitted Form 4 Individual Dec 10, 2018
Received September 21 2019
284 days.

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Sundazes · Sep 23, 2019

F4 trust
Sent 10/3/18
Approved 9/9/19
Mailed 9/12
In my grubby hands 9/21.

SkiPatrolDude · Sep 23, 2019

Can’t believe it. Started a Form 4 individual on 6/27/2019 and received call TODAY (9/23/2019) that my Tax Stamp has arrived!!! Went in and sure enough I went home with my new Saker 556.

Lady behind the counter said she’s never seen it come back this quick, even asking if I knew anyone at the ATF or if I am special somehow lol. I can assure you that neither is the case.

That’s under 90 days, folks.

She did say that she got a few back that started in January of 2019 but also still had a bunch from last year still pending.

Occam · Sep 23, 2019

SkiPatrolDude said:
Can’t believe it. Started a Form 4 individual on 6/27/2019 and received call TODAY (9/23/2019) that my Tax Stamp has arrived!!! Went in and sure enough I went home with my new Saker 556.

Lady behind the counter said she’s never seen it come back this quick, even asking if I knew anyone at the ATF or if I am special somehow lol. I can assure you that neither is the case.

That’s under 90 days, folks.

She did say that she got a few back that started in January of 2019 but also still had a bunch from last year still pending.

I noticed that GymRatz's John mentioned in a listing for a new can that they're starting to see some stamps come back in four months. This is a disturbing trend because I see that my wallet is starting to twitch.

ZevGlock · Sep 23, 2019

Still waiting , since 9/11/2018

My can is still at gymratz. Maybe one day I can pick it up.

It's been since 9/11/2018

rockstarr · Sep 25, 2019

ZevGlock said:
My can is still at gymratz. Maybe one day I can pick it up.

It's been since 9/11/2018

blows my mind- he was just talking about some approvals coming back in 4 months, and here you are at a year and counting.

I just don't get the inconsistency

alucard0822 · Sep 25, 2019

the Reddit approvals megathreads seem to be the best barometer for those waiting, funny thing is for F4s this month seems there is a fairly equal number approved between 200-300 days and <100 days, with a couple over 400 and under 60 days, so go figure. Not sure what the ATF is doing over there.

tmo8320 · Sep 25, 2019

I guess Form 5 waits are just as bad?

JohnnyE · Sep 25, 2019

SkiPatrolDude said:
Can’t believe it. Started a Form 4 individual on 6/27/2019 and received call TODAY (9/23/2019) that my Tax Stamp has arrived!!! Went in and sure enough I went home with my new Saker 556.

Lady behind the counter said she’s never seen it come back this quick, even asking if I knew anyone at the ATF or if I am special somehow lol. I can assure you that neither is the case.

That’s under 90 days, folks.

She did say that she got a few back that started in January of 2019 but also still had a bunch from last year still pending.

Someone at ATF is going to loose their job over this. It blows their whole argument that they're understaffed and overworked. It's a shame because Congress will think ATF has all the staff they need, and will cut their budget, and the wait time will grow. :rolleyes:

rsideout · Sep 25, 2019

F4 transfer with my 03FFL (C&R)
Check cashed 1/7/19
Approved 9/9/19
246 days (8 months 3 days) from check cashed to signed approval on F4
Paperwork received by seller/SOT - ?
Call from seller on 9/23, shipped on 9/24 and received on 9/25.

engineerbrian · Sep 25, 2019

rsideout said:
F4 transfer with my 03FFL (C&R)
Check cashed 1/7/19
Approved 9/9/19
246 days (8 months 3 days) from check cashed to signed approval on F4
Paperwork received by seller/SOT - ?
Call from seller on 9/23, shipped on 9/24 and received on 9/25.

What did you get?

44man · Sep 25, 2019

I am waiting on a can from John

Individual form 4

Check cashed mid December last year

Crazy

current ATF wait time

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