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Viper385 · Jan 17, 2018

Hello All - this is my first post here and I am hoping to just get some confirmation on what I already think is the case. So I recently did an AR build using an 80% lower. My initial thought was I was going to be building an AR pistol given the 10.5" barrel I was using. This build includes a Dolos quick disconnect barrel system as well as a folding "stock"/buffer tube. Given the additional length added by both of these items the build comes in at just over 26.5" in length. Given the fact the overall length is over 26" my question is since the lower has no markings classifying it as either a rifle or a pistol what have I built? Does it have to be a pistol because that was my initial intention or is it a rifle? I ask this mainly because I want to know what options I can add to it - such as a vertical foregrip.

Thanks all!

danb · Jan 17, 2018

Might want to look up NFA rules for short barreled rifles, and delete your post. depends what kind of stock of course. There are buffer tubes. There are braces. And then there are actual stocks.

dontpanic · Jan 17, 2018

It is a pistol. Rifles have barrels 16" or greater and a stock.

As long as your OAL is =>26" you can use a vfg. If <26" you can still use an angled fore grip.

Welcome aboard

dontpanic · Jan 17, 2018

danb said:
Might want to look up NFA rules for short barreled rifles, and delete your post. depends what kind of stock of course.

I think he meant pistol brace when he put that in quotes.

danb · Jan 17, 2018

dontpanic said:
I think he meant pistol brace when he put that in quotes.

exactly!

Viper385 · Jan 17, 2018

It currently has a Sig Brace on it. I was referring to the folding part. It does not get sold as a folding pistol brace. I thought NFA rules were it has to have a barrel over 16" or a OAL of 26" or longer to be classified as a rifle. Can a firearm with an OAL over 26" still be classified as a pistol?

danb · Jan 17, 2018

SBR= rifle with OAL<26" or barrel less than 16"

whether its a rifle, depends on what is on the shoulder end, and who is in the Oval office to some extent as well. Sig brace would make it a pistol.

Pistols with braces can have a length over 26.75" many do, like this: https://iwi.us/product/gap39iisb/

Viper385 · Jan 17, 2018

So I basically need to leave it how it is and not put the vertical grip on it.

Ranchero50 · Jan 17, 2018

I would also assume that the folder doesn't come into play as the pistol won't function correctly without it? Or maybe it does since it might fire a round that was put in the chamber before folding it?

Viper385 · Jan 18, 2018

It is the dead foot arms folder with modified bcg. So it can fire while folded.

mvee · Jan 18, 2018

I think it is a firearm under federal law and a handgun under md law. See this thread

https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=183780

Viper385 · Jan 18, 2018

Thanks! That definitely helps clarify it.

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