1911 build issue

Techguy · Nov 3, 2019

So I thought I would try my hand at building a 1911. I finished cutting the side rails and barrel seat last night but I noticed that my frame does not have a feed ramp and neither does the barrel. The frame is from stealth arms and the barrel is from a parts kit I bought from sarco. Do you guys think I could just buy a stealth arms barrel and have it fit properly or should I go another route? Thanks for the help.

teratos · Nov 3, 2019

Techguy said:
So I thought I would try my hand at building a 1911. I finished cutting the side rails and barrel seat last night but I noticed that my frame does not have a feed ramp and neither does the barrel. The frame is from stealth arms and the barrel is from a parts kit I bought from sarco. Do you guys think I could just buy a stealth arms barrel and have it fit properly or should I go another route? Thanks for the help.

Try it. Non-ramped barrels built correctly will feed. Ramped are more reliable.

Techguy · Nov 3, 2019

So are you saying I can put a non ramped barrel in a non ramped frame and it should work ok?

teratos · Nov 3, 2019

Techguy said:
So are you saying I can put a non ramped barrel in a non ramped frame and it should work ok?

I believe so. Try it.

bpm32 · Nov 3, 2019

No feed ramps? Can you show a picture?

Techguy · Nov 3, 2019

Here is a few pictures hopefully they will upload properly

teratos · Nov 3, 2019

That should work fine.

somd_mustangs · Nov 3, 2019

That looks like one of their ramped 9mm/38 Super/40/10mm frames, not a 45.
"Pre-cut for Clark/Para style ramped barrels"
I would be very surprised if you can get that barrel and frame to work together

somd_mustangs · Nov 3, 2019

teratos said:
That should work fine.

Really?

teratos · Nov 3, 2019

somd_mustangs said:
Really?

With round nosed ammo, yes. Probably not gonna feed HP very well.

Techguy · Nov 3, 2019

so you think my best bet would be to get a barrel from stealth arms or try and find one that has a ramp on the barrel?

bpm32 · Nov 3, 2019

Techguy said:
so you think my best bet would be to get a barrel from stealth arms or try and find one that has a ramp on the barrel?

Yeah, that frame is cut for a ramped barrel.

bpm32 · Nov 3, 2019

Be careful—there are two different standard ramped barrels: Wilson/Nowlin vs. Para/Clark. What make of frame is that?

somd_mustangs · Nov 3, 2019

If it was me I'd match the barrel to the frame, e.g. find a properly-cut ramped barrel.
Not sure if Stealth offers .45 ramped barrels (assuming that's the caliber you want).
Call 'em up and ask them, they are very helpful.

If you put a round in a mag and put it in the frame, you'll see there's a large unsupported gap (I've got a couple of these StealthArms frames and just looked at one for the heck of it); it might feed ball ammo when it feels like it, but probably not reliably.
There's a reason JMB put a ramp in the frame

Stealth Arms uses the Para/Clark cut....

bpm32 · Nov 3, 2019

somd_mustangs said:
If it was me I'd match the barrel to the frame, e.g. find a properly-cut ramped barrel.
Not sure if Stealth offers .45 ramped barrels (assuming that's the caliber you want).
Call 'em up and ask them, they are very helpful.

If you put a round in a mag and put it in the frame, you'll see there's a large unsupported gap (I've got a couple of these StealthArms frames and just looked at one for the heck of it); it might feed ball ammo when it feels like it, but probably not reliably.
There's a reason JMB put a ramp in the frame

Stealth Arms uses the Para/Clark cut....

Yeah, that frame looks like it’s got the curve in it, so it would be a Para/Clark.

teratos · Nov 3, 2019

No. This is a picture of one of my 1911’s. It’s a 1967 Camp Perry National Match. Pretty similar. Feeds with no problem. Put it together and see if it feeds. If not, get a ramped barrel.

Rockzilla · Nov 3, 2019

what you have is a frame that needs a "ramped barrel"

the barrel you have is designed for a frame the has the feed ramp built
in, that you would blend to a non ramped barrel. Hence the bevel on the
bottom of the barrel into the chamber...

You have 2 options buy a "ramped barrel" or buy a frame that's designed
for a "non ramped" barrels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2bds_6CRFw

check out some mosinvirus YouTube videos that may help you or
see if you can find some videos by Bob Marvel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuzQ_Hyup44

most places give you a choice in frame design Standard.....Wilson / Nowlin.....Clark / Para..
and the latter is what you have....
which some have mentioned above...

mostly all mine have Bar-Sto barrels installed, except the beater ones

Have fun building...

-Rock

bpm32 · Nov 3, 2019

teratos said:
No. This is a picture of one of my 1911’s. It’s a 1967 Camp Perry National Match. Pretty similar. Feeds with no problem. Put it together and see if it feeds. If not, get a ramped barrel.

I don’t know man—I wouldn’t bother. He hasn’t even cut the barrel feet yet, so he could potentially ruin the barrel for use with a standard frame.

More importantly, is that 1967 an RIA or a Springfield? I’ve got a 1961 and a 1968.

teratos · Nov 3, 2019

bpm32 said:
I don’t know man—I wouldn’t bother. He hasn’t even cut the barrel feet yet, so he could potentially ruin the barrel for use with a standard frame.

More importantly, is that 1967 an RIA or a Springfield? I’ve got a 1961 and a 1968.

The frame is a 1944 Remington Rand. Built at RIA. I forget the name of the armorer who worked on the gun, but I have the info somewhere. Great shooter.

Magnumite · Nov 3, 2019

The frame shown is cut for use with a Clark/Para ramped barrel. Even ball ammo will not feed if used with the barrel shown on the frame. Rock Island Armory uses a Clark/Para ramped barrel in all calibers except 45 ACP, at least in 5” pistols. Not at a bad price either for the calibers they make them for. Finding a Clark ramped barrel in 45 ACP may not be that inexpensive since the majority of barrels made are the nonramped variety.

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