SAF SUES IN MARYLAND OVER HANDGUN PERMIT DENIAL UPDATED 3-5-12

esqappellate · Jun 10, 2012

Rossi357 said:
Is it common for a Judge to stay his own ruling pending an appeal? It sounds like he would be saying, "hmmm maybe I was wrong. Let's hold off on this."

Not uncommon. Especially where the judge thinks its a close case and the loser can make a decent showing of harm

LCPIWB · Jun 11, 2012

esqappellate said:
Not uncommon. Especially where the judge thinks its a close case and the loser can make a decent showing of harm

Too bad it was not even close this time.

annihilation-time · Jun 11, 2012

LCPIWB said:
Too bad it was not even close this time.

I agree. It was more like a crushing blow to the state than anything else.

Boondock Saint · Jun 11, 2012

Since it's after 9AM and the thread is already at the top, anyone check PACER in the last four minutes? :innocent0

dlmcbm · Jun 11, 2012

Boondock Saint said:
Since it's after 9AM and the thread is already at the top, anyone check PACER in the last four minutes?

I was here to check the same thing. PLEASE let it be there.

Inigoes · Jun 11, 2012

The 3/2 motion order was entered Monday 3/5 @ 10 AM

Calm down guys.

Good things come to those who wait...

Merlin · Jun 11, 2012

esqappellate said:
Not uncommon. Especially where the judge thinks its a close case and the loser can make a decent showing of harm

When I read statements that Judge Legg made I did not get the impression he thought anything was close. He plainly pointed out what the state of MD was doing is wrong for what they have been doing over the years.

Out of 50 states in the US, 43 of them are either shall issue states to include the 4 states you just have to show your a resident of to carry. After any judge points out to one of the last few states that still feel they have the right to prevent us from a constitutional right they are very wrong, how can he feel anything is close?

The decision Judge Legg made I feel was him being a good and fair judge. But I think the stay is nothing more then politics.

He pointed out in March that G&S is wrong. Not that he thinks G&S is wrong. But that it is wrong. So a stay was implemented just in case the state could come up with a good reason of why they should be able to continue to keep us from a constitutional rights? A right that people in 43 other states can enjoy?

Why don't all of the judges get together and let all of the states come us with good reasons to trash all of the constitution as long as they can come up with good reasons to do so? :mad54:

dlmcbm · Jun 11, 2012

Inigoes said:
The 3/2 motion order was entered Monday 3/5 @ 10 AM

Calm down guys.

Good things come to those who wait...

I am tired of waiting. I don't want to do it anymore.... :lol2:

esqappellate · Jun 11, 2012

Boondock Saint said:
Since it's after 9AM and the thread is already at the top, anyone check PACER in the last four minutes?

I just did at 9:23am . Nothing there.

swinokur · Jun 11, 2012

I still say Friday. But now it's this Friday not last Friday.

JMangle · Jun 11, 2012

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But seriously, watched pot and what not.

Today it has been 90 days since the MSP got my application. So the longer the wait, the more I can complain once the stay is lifted. I don't think they will have a good excuse saying, "Oh, we actually didn't do anything with your permit for the first 90 days because of the stay."

Boondock Saint · Jun 11, 2012

This is all wishful thinking, of course. I was just fanning some flames a bit.

Most of us know that there's no timeline for the decision, and while it could come at any time, this is undoubtedly a patient man's game.

eyesinpines · Jun 11, 2012

Well, my interview is tonight, so NOW is the time!!!!!!

MDFF2008 · Jun 11, 2012

Nothing

fightinbluhen51 · Jun 11, 2012

Don't we have appeal briefs due this week? :innocent0

krucam · Jun 11, 2012

fightinbluhen51 said:
Don't we have appeal briefs due this week?

Yes, Friday...

eyesinpines · Jun 11, 2012

Pretty soon isn't any decision by Judge Legg re appeal going to be mute because CA$ is dealing with it?

fightinbluhen51 · Jun 11, 2012

eyesinpines said:
Pretty soon isn't any decision by Judge Legg re appeal going to be mute because CA$ is dealing with it?

No...proceedings for appeal are separate from the stay. (District Court vs. Circuit). Of course, like anything in the justice system, the stay itself can be appealed as well.

Boondock Saint · Jun 11, 2012

eyesinpines said:
Pretty soon isn't any decision by Judge Legg re appeal going to be mute because CA$ is dealing with it?

This court isn't ruling on appeal; it's ruling on a stay. If the motion is decided in our favor (no stay), the state will ask CA4 to stay the ruling while they handle the actual case appeal.

eyesinpines · Jun 11, 2012

Boondock Saint said:
This court isn't ruling on appeal; it's ruling on a stay. If the motion is decided in our favor (no stay), the state will ask CA4 to stay the ruling while they handle the actual case appeal.

Thanks for pointing out my "mispeak"!!

Same question though....as soon as CA4 wraps their arms around this, any stay/brief/hearing etc will be theirs right? So at what point does anything that Judge Legg have to say become mute?

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