BCM 7000 Round Endurance Test (without cleaning) WOW

grimnar15 · Jun 3, 2020

Pretty impressive, who can still say an AR15 needs to be babied to function?

How far have you gone without cleaning?

https://youtu.be/FXqXRQYhCmo

rbird7282 · Jun 3, 2020

grimnar15 said:
Pretty impressive, who can still say an AR15 needs to be babied to function?

How far have you gone without cleaning?

https://youtu.be/FXqXRQYhCmo

I haven't cleaned mine in over 2,000 rounds. Lube it and shoot it.

kstone803 · Jun 3, 2020

Reminds me.of the BCM filthy 14 story from years ago.

http://www.slip2000.com/blog/s-w-a-t-magazine-filthy-14/

grimnar15 · Jun 3, 2020

rbird7282 said:
I haven't cleaned mine in over 2,000 rounds. Lube it and shoot it.

I have had it rammed in my head that the AR15 must be cleaned and lubed after even a couple of hundred round. Between this endurance test and the mud test I am convinced that the AR15 is a beast.

grimnar15 · Jun 3, 2020

kstone803 said:
Reminds me.of the BCM filthy 14 story from years ago.

http://www.slip2000.com/blog/s-w-a-t-magazine-filthy-14/

That’s amazing 30k round is a lot. Never heard of Slip 2000 EWL until now, interesting stuff.

rbird7282 · Jun 3, 2020

grimnar15 said:
I have had it rammed in my head that the AR15 must be cleaned and lubed after even a couple of hundred round. Between this endurance test and the mud test I am convinced that the AR15 is a beast.

I used to clean after every range trip. No more. Took the SOTAR Armorer's course and learned the truth. Honestly I only really clean any of my guns maybe once/twice a year. Rimfire or anything I shoot suppressed gets cleaned more often.
Over cleaning really does more damage/wear then not doing so.

grimnar15 · Jun 3, 2020

rbird7282 said:
I used to clean after every range trip. No more. Took the SOTAR Armorer's course and learned the truth. Honestly I only really clean any of my guns maybe once/twice a year. Rimfire or anything I shoot suppressed gets cleaned more often.
Over cleaning really does more damage/wear then not doing so.

Can I handle the truth?

Blaster229 · Jun 3, 2020

Most just need do be lubed. One of my armorers took his P229 15k rounds without cleaning. Just lubed.

ToolAA · Jun 3, 2020

I’ve been conducting my own test. My 300 B/O has about 2800 suppressed subsonic rounds through it. It’s as dirty as a coal cutter. I take the BCG out every so often and dip it in motor oil and keep on going.

rockstarr · Jun 4, 2020

ToolAA said:
I’ve been conducting my own test. My 300 B/O has about 2800 suppressed subsonic rounds through it. It’s as dirty as a coal cutter. I take the BCG out every so often and dip it in motor oil and keep on going.

That sounds messy. What is with y’all and the obsession to make messes?

clandestine · Jun 4, 2020

rockstarr said:
That sounds messy. What is with y’all and the obsession to make messes?

You mean like some people obsession with trying to discredit what I do?

grimnar15 · Jun 4, 2020

rockstarr said:
That sounds messy. What is with y’all and the obsession to make messes?

I’ve been using rotella synthetic diesel oil. Works like a champ.

3paul10 · Jun 4, 2020

kstone803 said:
Reminds me.of the BCM filthy 14 story from years ago.

http://www.slip2000.com/blog/s-w-a-t-magazine-filthy-14/

I was fortunate enough to take 2 Pat Rogers classes, and I actually used the filthy 14 gun after the article was written. The gun had not been cleaned yet, and I put about 600-700 rounds through it that day. I just pulled the BCG out and spayed it with Slip....ran without a problem and it really was filthy. Glad I got that opportunity. Pat was one of the greatest instructors I've learned from and an awesome person.

clandestine · Jun 4, 2020

3paul10 said:
I was fortunate enough to take 2 Pat Rogers classes, and I actually used the filthy 14 gun after the article was written. The gun had not been cleaned yet, and I put about 600-700 rounds through it that day. I just pulled the BCG out and spayed it with Slip....ran without a problem and it really was filthy. Glad I got that opportunity. Pat was one of the greatest instructors I've learned from and an awesome person.

Amen!

travistheone · Jun 4, 2020

cleaning guns is way overrated. glocks and QUALITY ar work great dirty with lube.

OLM-Medic · Jun 4, 2020

I clean my guns more than I used to since I got a suppressor, but lube is definitely the most important. I don't clean the bore often at all. In fact I think it causes POI shift, so if I do clean the bore I only do it right before I go back to the range.

clandestine said:
You mean like some people obsession with trying to discredit what I do?

hey man I know you're busy these days but since you have PMs turned off, can you answer two questions for me?

I use synthetic wheel bearing grease for pistol slides as you suggested. It's great because it seems to stay ON.

I use synthetic motor oil for AR BCGs.

Which weight oil is the best to use? I was curious because I use 10w/30 and appears kinda of thick in freezing temperature.

I also did a fun test and ran an AR hard with wheel bearing grease as the only lube. It ran fine. What do you think about this?

Thanks

clandestine · Jun 4, 2020

OLM-Medic said:
I clean my guns more than I used to since I got a suppressor, but lube is definitely the most important. I don't clean the bore often at all. In fact I think it causes POI shift, so if I do clean the bore I only do it right before I go back to the range.

hey man I know you're busy these days but since you have PMs turned off, can you answer two questions for me?

I use synthetic wheel bearing grease for pistol slides as you suggested. It's great because it seems to stay ON.

I use synthetic motor oil for AR BCGs.

Which weight oil is the best to use? I was curious because I use 10w/30 and appears kinda of thick in freezing temperature.

I also did a fun test and ran an AR hard with wheel bearing grease as the only lube. It ran fine. What do you think about this?

Thanks

It's climate dependent. I have found 0w40 and a light amount of gease is great for MD cold weather.

10w30 does great in summer.

Colder climates it may not be great.

Always prove out the "brew" before you trust it.

outrider58 · Jun 4, 2020

Does anyone know a good mechanic who will change the oil in your guns when sevicing your vehicle?

kstone803 · Jun 4, 2020

outrider58 said:
Does anyone know a good mechanic who will change the oil in your guns when sevicing your vehicle?

That's a jiffy lube I would support!!

cstone · Jun 4, 2020

Imagine how reliable our engines would become if we tore them down, cleaned and lubed them the way some treat their firearms. I can't think of a vehicle with an ICE that isn't a much more harsh environment then any firearm.

Clean them when you have time, but not too often. Run them wet and replace things as they break.

Be safe.

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