An ATF Approved 80% But With A Twist?

grimnar15 · Jul 24, 2019

Very interesting, ATF approved as a combination of firearms parts but with a twist and not at all what I expected.

https://www.theakarmory.com/product/romanian-80-akm-pm90-rifle-parts-kit/

erwos · Jul 24, 2019

I mean... it makes sense? Looks like you gotta drill out the FCG and safety holes, which should be easy enough with a decent drill press or mill.

budman93 · Jul 24, 2019

I'm guessing still illegal in Md right?

CrabcakesAndFootball · Jul 24, 2019

budman93 said:
I'm guessing still illegal in Md right?

My semi-educated guess is yes, possession of the finished product is still illegal b/c we didn't possess before 10/1/13 and its a 7.62x39 AK. Not legal advice, of course.

grimnar15 · Jul 24, 2019

budman93 said:
I'm guessing still illegal in Md right?

My opinion, it is not a firearm so should be Maryland legal as long as you don't complete it.

grimnar15 · Jul 24, 2019

CrabcakesAndFootball said:
My semi-educated guess is yes, possession of the finished product is still illegal b/c we didn't possess before 10/1/13 and its a 7.62x39 AK. Not legal advice, of course.

Per the sellers distribution statement: "There are no serial numbers on any of the parts due to being a virgin parts kit."

ken792 · Jul 24, 2019

If you're lazy, you can install a CMC Elite trigger pack by drilling some random holes and not drill it for a selector. The rifle itself functions without a selector and fire control group placement can be kind of sloppy.

https://www.cmctriggers.com/ak-elite-trigger-curved/

DutchV · Jul 24, 2019

That's pretty slick. Drilling a few holes is a lot easier than the rest of the steps would be. Too bad we're in MD.

CrabcakesAndFootball · Jul 24, 2019

grimnar15 said:
Per the sellers distribution statement: "There are no serial numbers on any of the parts due to being a virgin parts kit."

Sure, I am referring to after completion of the kit. I don't see any issue with purchasing the 80% kit; I just don't think you can possess the completed firearm in MD. Not legal advice; just a semi-educated guess.

grimnar15 · Jul 24, 2019

CrabcakesAndFootball said:
Sure, I am referring to after completion of the kit. I don't see any issue with purchasing the 80% kit; I just don't think you can possess the completed firearm in MD. Not legal advice; just a semi-educated guess.

I am with you, I just struggle with determining when the firearm was completed.

Lloyd · Jul 24, 2019

CrabcakesAndFootball said:
My semi-educated guess is yes, possession of the finished product is still illegal b/c we didn't possess before 10/1/13 and its a 7.62x39 AK. Not legal advice, of course.

What about if it were configured as an AK "pistol," what says your educated guesswork?

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ken792 · Jul 24, 2019

What about build it to use an AR or H&K trigger group?

DutchV · Jul 24, 2019

Lloyd said:
What about if it were configured as an AK "pistol," what says your educated guesswork?

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If they released a model that was a pistol style, that would be MD legal.

budman93 · Jul 24, 2019

grimnar15 said:
My opinion, it is not a firearm so should be Maryland legal as long as you don't complete it.

well yeah, but its no good if it stays a paperweight. completing it turns it into a banned weapon that wasnt pre oct 13

grimnar15 · Jul 24, 2019

budman93 said:
well yeah, but its no good if it stays a paperweight. completing it turns it into a banned weapon that wasnt pre oct 13

What is very strange is that there are no traceable markings that could establish a build date.

Lloyd · Jul 24, 2019

DutchV said:
If they released a model that was a pistol style, that would be MD legal.

Well since the manufacturer sells it just as a "parts kit," one could complete the "kit" with whatever parts they choose, including a pistol brace in lieu of the wire stock. Basically, I'm not seeing how the configuration the seller is selling the "parts kit" n has any relevance, as the wire stock is just one of many parts contained within their "parts kit."

Just my $0.02

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Lloyd · Jul 24, 2019

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grimnar15 · Jul 24, 2019

Lloyd said:
Well since the manufacturer sells it just as a "parts kit," one could complete the "kit" with whatever parts they choose, including a pistol brace in lieu of the wire stock. Basically, I'm not seeing how the configuration the seller is selling the "parts kit" n has any relevance, as the wire stock is just one of many parts contained within their "parts kit."

Just my $0.02

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That!!! is a really interesting point you made there.

grimnar15 · Jul 28, 2019

Look like the Galil trigger and Safety would work.

lazarus · Jul 29, 2019

You could also manufacture it as an SBR.

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