i thought certain crimes in MD were not elgible for expungement?
maybe the case?
maybe the case?
Issues accquiring a firearm
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clandestine
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Story sounds off. MSP no longer handles shotguns, thats 4473 territory. Handguns require a HQL UNLESS he tried to buy a C&R or is a retired U.S. Military and is HQL exempt.
If he has a HQL then something is off.
If he has a HQL then something is off.
OP could be confused about MSP denying twice, this is thirdhand info, or dad could have tried buying a variant (IE Mossy bullpup or Spas 12). Or could have tried to buy pistol first get denied then tried to buy a shotgun and assumed it was MSP denying both.
Having the HQL means nothing, several cases of MSP issuing them to prohibited persons.
C&R only comes into play if he has an FFL03 and bought out of state as C&R handguns still go through the 77R and MSP LD.
davsco
Ultimate Member
if it were my dad, and i knew he was legit/legal, i might just forget and leave a shottie at his house (which is prolly also my house as we're family) after our hunting trip or trip to the range.
clandestine
AR-15 Savant
C&R Handguns can be purchased on a 77r without a HQL.No C&R needed. Its right on the 77r
If it's from the 70's you may need to have it researched by the clerk of the relevant county court. It may need to be microfilm or even hand searched. I dealt with some old criminal histories like this for cases and they can be bad, I mean very, very incomplete.
Right what I meant was even with it being a C&R gun/or him being an FFL03 he would still need to go through the 77R MSP backgroubd check, unless he was an FFL 03 and the transaction took place outside the state of MD.
20ravens52
Active Member
He was able to obtain the HQL in 2014.
StantonCree
Watch your beer
- Jan 23, 2011
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This thread reeks of illegality
esqappellate
President, MSI
- Feb 12, 2012
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That's quite right, it does. Folks need to wise up and don't, even in jest, suggest that which is illegal. Assume that what you write on a blog will exist forever.
and if it's illegal, advocating it is a violation of forum rules, IMO worthy of a vaca.
pcfixer
Ultimate Member
ATF 4473 is pretty clear.
Do you have to go through a background check to get an HQL?
DaemonAssassin
Why should we Free BSD?
Supposedly you do...
There are too many omissions & inconsistency in the OP's story for anyone to be able to figure out the problem. The best advice was: request the NICS rejection information.
My experience has been that many folks who appear in court get so much confusing information in a short period of time that they are unable to understand/remember the details. Once the official reason is shown to him, everything will become clear.
In the meantime, I believe that anyone suggesting that the OP lend his father a gun is doing both of them, & members of this forum, a disservice. We protest injustice only by legal means.
My experience has been that many folks who appear in court get so much confusing information in a short period of time that they are unable to understand/remember the details. Once the official reason is shown to him, everything will become clear.
In the meantime, I believe that anyone suggesting that the OP lend his father a gun is doing both of them, & members of this forum, a disservice. We protest injustice only by legal means.
20ravens52
Active Member
Sorry all for bringing out the worst advice givers on the forum. Working on getting the NICS rejection appeal form figured out.
Exactly right. In a stressful situation, one's ability to process all the information is sorely impacted. I agree with the suggestion to get counsel.
clandestine
AR-15 Savant
Oh, you are that guy.
For a while NICS was not processing appeals. Don't know the status.
20ravens52
Active Member
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