AR-15 300BO, 16" barrel, what gas system?

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  • DZ

    Ultimate Member
    Oct 9, 2005
    4,091
    Mount Airy, MD
    I wonder why BCM went with the carbine length gas system? Over gassing perhaps?


    BCM has taken great care to ensure the best possible performance and interchangeability. However, due to the large operational range of 300 Blackout ammunition in the market place, BCM cannot guarantee function will all ammunition types in all conditions. These barrels were designed to run with a carbine buffer with subsonic ammo and a H3 buffer with high velocity ammo. Fine tuning may be required in limited instances based on ammo and buffer choices that work best for the desired application. BCM also recommends running the Crane O-ring (provided with all BCM Bolt Carrier Groups) over the extractor with 300 Blackout.
     

    clandestine

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    Oct 13, 2008
    37,032
    Elkton, MD
    Pistol Gas is optimal IMO for a .300, so is adjustable Gas. Messing with buffers is not necessary with a good SLR Adjustable Gas Block.

    The BCM/Crane O-Ring can often induce ejection problems from extractor over tensioning and it can cause damage to the casing rim for reloaders.

    Use a Colt Gold Extractor Spring and no O-Ring is ever necessary in my experience.
     

    DaemonAssassin

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    Jun 14, 2012
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    Pistol Gas is optimal IMO for a .300, so is adjustable Gas. Messing with buffers is not necessary with a good SLR Adjustable Gas Block.

    The BCM/Crane O-Ring can often induce ejection problems from extractor over tensioning and it can cause damage to the casing rim for reloaders.

    Use a Colt Gold Extractor Spring and no O-Ring is ever necessary in my experience.
    Slightly off topic, but would you recommend a adjustable gas block or a standard gas block for a 12.5 inch, carbine gas 556? Planning to do a pistol build and wanted your thoughts.
     

    friendlyhippo

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    Originally, the 300BO was optimized for a pistol length gas system - due to the use of subsonic ammunition.

    It seems a lot of outfits have finally started getting the gas port diameter correct for reliable operation with carbine length gas - even with subsonic ammo. Which is better, could be debated I guess.

    Personally, I've always opted for the pistol-length gas on my 300BO uppers, and adjustable gas-blocks (never know when the desire to suppress will override the bank account). I've never had any issues that weren't induced by the user - or by development loads I was testing.

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    12.2" 300BO and 16" 300BO.

    Both shot fantastic, both are in new homes.

    You really should do another one, since you know someone with a 30-cal suppressor. :innocent0
     

    Alphabrew

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    Jan 27, 2013
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    Woodbine
    I researched on ARF before building mine and they said pistol length gas

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    friendlyhippo

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    I researched on ARF before building mine and they said pistol length gas

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    Well yeah for a barrel that short. OP is going with 16", so a carbine is much more doable for him. I'd still go pistol but that's me--carbine will work fine on a longer barrel like 16". Pistol is still optimal though.
     

    BradMacc82

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    Aug 17, 2011
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    You really should do another one, since you know someone with a 30-cal suppressor. :innocent0

    He may know two someone's :lol2:

    Had that 10.5" 300BLK, briefly.

    Damn firearms adhd kicked in, and next thing I knew - it was in a new home. Never even sent a round down it... :o

    Looks like i'm trading the mini mill for a MK II TR. might have to chat with you about an appleseed before i venture off to america on a permanent basis.

    Texas beckons??
     

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