md_al
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$100 Suppressor thread 
Why are Suppressors so insanely OVERPRICED????
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I just don't want to be on the firing line when one of those $100 cans goes ka-plooy! Weber not withstanding, there's more to building your own than slapping a bunch of Amazon parts up the rear end of a flash light. Make sure you are capable of taking on this type of exacting work.
Oh, and factory made cans go ka-plooy too. Always check your ammo and bore/suppressor concentricity(sp?).
Oh, and factory made cans go ka-plooy too. Always check your ammo and bore/suppressor concentricity(sp?).
Bourbonstamps
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- Dec 23, 2015
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paid $560 + stamp for a Specwar 556
paid $249 + stamp for Aviator II
I don't see overpriced
paid $249 + stamp for Aviator II
I don't see overpriced
Scarab
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First off, I'm not "attacking" anyone or any manufacturer I'm just trying to wrap my head around the price.
There are some good explanations that have been given and it ultimately comes down to the the consumer to decide if the outrageous price tag is worth it or not.
I do know there are two ways of addressing the same problem of price. You can either make a great product at a great price and it will sell itself and fly off of your shelves or you can make a great product at an outrageous price and maybe sell a few to connesiours who want bragging rights that they were able to pay so much for the same thing.
Scarab
There are some good explanations that have been given and it ultimately comes down to the the consumer to decide if the outrageous price tag is worth it or not.
I do know there are two ways of addressing the same problem of price. You can either make a great product at a great price and it will sell itself and fly off of your shelves or you can make a great product at an outrageous price and maybe sell a few to connesiours who want bragging rights that they were able to pay so much for the same thing.
Scarab
I talked to the owner of a small suppressor manufacturing company. He had a masters degree in mechanical engineering, & equipment in his lab cost him > $100,000.
I used to think Colt AR-15's were overpriced at $300. After all, they're mostly plastic & sheet metal stampings. How much can they cost to make? You can see how much the price dropped with time & competition.
Neal
"You get what you pay for, sometimes less."
I used to think Colt AR-15's were overpriced at $300. After all, they're mostly plastic & sheet metal stampings. How much can they cost to make? You can see how much the price dropped with time & competition.
Neal
"You get what you pay for, sometimes less."
Scarab
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I was looking at a Freedom Armory .45 Ti can but it's $900 just for the silencer. That's the price of a very good 1911! My 1911 cost $1,200! Hard to swallow buying an $1,100 (w/ tax stamp) in addition to the firearm.
Just me and my opinion of course. If they had priced it around $400 I might have been able to swallow it. But nope. $900.
Scarab
Just me and my opinion of course. If they had priced it around $400 I might have been able to swallow it. But nope. $900.
Scarab
All very valid points. However I do have to wonder why they are so cheap in other countries where they readily available such as New Zealand
DutchV
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- Jul 8, 2012
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Don't forget all the costs of ATF compliance. Gotta lock up the inventory, maintain licenses for both manufacturer and dealer, and track all the paperwork. Every little thing adds to the final cost.
This is why the build your own kits have become so popular. The only reason I can come up with is research and development cost. Kinda like the cost of prescription medications, the pills themselves are cheap, figuring out what works isnt.
campns
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and there is the rub, I really think it has to do with the ATF compliance.
In countries where suppressors aren't as regulated, you're not buying a suppressor for life, you're buying a disposable accessory. If your $200 all-aluminum suppressor poops itself, you can buy another one relatively painlessly. You could probably get that price even lower if you made it a sealed unit.
It's not like there aren't cheap suppressor manufacturers in the US - Thompson Machine comes to mind. They aren't the quietest, they aren't made of the most robust materials, and they don't have a wide array of mounting solutions.
These are all features that people in the US want out of something that they wait 6 months for.
While I agree they are over priced! I guess the same logic applies as buying an outboard boat motor. Go price a 250hp Honda @ around $24k!
xtreme43s10
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tkd4life
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As someone already mentioned, try pricing out the raw prices for good 7075 aluminum, Stainless, Titanium, and Inconel stock. Then factor in the costs of machining the materials such as titanium and Inconel and the costs go up through the roof. The cost of tooling alone can get into the tens of thousands of dollars.
I paid $325 for my silencerco Spectre II. While it is just aluminum and stainless steel, I don't think I over paid. It would be cheaper for me to pay the $325 than to buy the stock materials, machine it, and finish it myself. Even with stealing the intellectual property of the design.
I paid $325 for my silencerco Spectre II. While it is just aluminum and stainless steel, I don't think I over paid. It would be cheaper for me to pay the $325 than to buy the stock materials, machine it, and finish it myself. Even with stealing the intellectual property of the design.
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tkd4life
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Has anyone seen anyone try to shoot something like 5.56 NATO out of one of these bad boys on full auto? 22LR has less than half the chamber pressure and a very small fraction of the gas volume of a 5.56. Given the thin wall of the oil filter, I would be curious to see if it would stand up to the pressure.
rockstarr
Major Deplorable
ha, the price is why I choose not to own one.
Hell, I don't even own any scopes or optics because good ones that are worth while are pretty expensive to set up.
Do what I did, just quit thinking about it and you will feel better. I now love to shoot iron sights LMAO
Hell, I don't even own any scopes or optics because good ones that are worth while are pretty expensive to set up.
Do what I did, just quit thinking about it and you will feel better. I now love to shoot iron sights LMAO
CrazySanMan
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