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outrider58 · Jul 10, 2016

Arcamm said:
I had the "file too big" issue so I rescanned mine at 100dpi and it got me under the 3meg point. It's worked twice that way.

Maybe I should try again to make sure.

Same here just now. I think "they" are having a problem. Not the end of the world for me, but not so good for others...

outrider58 · Jul 10, 2016

UPDATE: They seam to have fixed it for now. Got my Form 1 in on first try.

parttimer · Jul 12, 2016

I just emailed and recieved a response from the ATF. I was informed that if a paper form was mailed to them (postmarked) prior to the 13th it would fall under the old rules. If it was postmarked on or after the 13th if would fall under the new rules.

I was planning on doing 2 form 1suppressors. Do I send them in 2 separate envelopes or in one envelope? If in one envelope do I send 2 copies of my trust and 2 checkes or just one trust and one $400 check?

outrider58 · Jul 12, 2016

parttimer said:
I just emailed and recieved a response from the ATF. I was informed that if a paper form was mailed to them (postmarked) prior to the 13th it would fall under the old rules. If it was postmarked on or after the 13th if would fall under the new rules.

I was planning on doing 2 form 1suppressors. Do I send them in 2 separate envelopes or in one envelope? If in one envelope do I send 2 copies of my trust and 2 checkes or just one trust and one $400 check?

I would split them up, just in case one got lost. Trusts in both.

Arcamm · Jul 12, 2016

Still off-line

awptickes · Jul 12, 2016

parttimer said:
I just emailed and recieved a response from the ATF. I was informed that if a paper form was mailed to them (postmarked) prior to the 13th it would fall under the old rules. If it was postmarked on or after the 13th if would fall under the new rules.

I was planning on doing 2 form 1suppressors. Do I send them in 2 separate envelopes or in one envelope? If in one envelope do I send 2 copies of my trust and 2 checkes or just one trust and one $400 check?

can you post the response?

Arcamm · Jul 12, 2016

Where do you find a paper/pdf form 1 anyway?

outrider58 · Jul 12, 2016

Arcamm said:
Where do you find a paper/pdf form 1 anyway?

https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=159654&page=9

Post #161

Thank swinokur for that one.

Sundazes · Jul 12, 2016

Just got this trying to log on to Eforms:

eForms Outage

We have been experiencing issues with the eForms system the past few days. We are working to restore it to service soon, but we do not have an estimated time for return to service.

However, with the changes to the filing requirements resulting from Final Rule 41F (go to the ATF website (www.atf.gov) for information) becoming effective on July 13, 2016, you may wish to file a paper application. Please be aware that the effective date is set by the Final Rule and cannot be extended.

A PDF of the form 1 application is available on the ATF website (Firearms forms function) where it can be downloaded and completed to be filed to the address on the form. The form may also be found by clicking on the following link: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/f...-and-register-firearm-atf-form-53201/download

If the submission is postmarked prior to July 13, 2016, it will be processed under the current requirements. If postmarked on or after July 13, 2016, the new requirements will apply.

Arcamm · Jul 12, 2016

outrider58 said:
https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=159654&page=9

Post #161

Thank swinokur for that one.

For once search was my friend and I had found that, but thanks for the link. And thank you swinokur. Yours in more up to date that the one in the NFA sticky.

sundazes said:
Just got this trying to log on to Eforms:

eForms Outage

We have been experiencing issues with the eForms system the past few days. We are working to restore it to service soon, but we do not have an estimated time for return to service.

However, with the changes to the filing requirements resulting from Final Rule 41F (go to the ATF website (www.atf.gov) for information) becoming effective on July 13, 2016, you may wish to file a paper application. Please be aware that the effective date is set by the Final Rule and cannot be extended.

A PDF of the form 1 application is available on the ATF website (Firearms forms function) where it can be downloaded and completed to be filed to the address on the form. The form may also be found by clicking on the following link: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/f...-and-register-firearm-atf-form-53201/download

If the submission is postmarked prior to July 13, 2016, it will be processed under the current requirements. If postmarked on or after July 13, 2016, the new requirements will apply.

This tells me that they have thrown in the towel. Our taxes at work.....

Melnic · Jul 12, 2016

So the deadline is tonight at Midnight?

So comcast outage is due to atf eforms going down...ahhh makes sense

The outage is NOT a coincidence. Someone mandated this from up high..

Why Try · Jul 12, 2016

So at this point even if you do a paper Form 1 all the post offices are closed so you are SOL, correct?

Melnic · Jul 12, 2016

Why Try said:
So at this point even if you do a paper Form 1 all the post offices are closed so you are SOL, correct?

Post office by me (Laurel) has a Kiosk Machine.
It prints the stamp at the machine.
You can do a priority mail from it.

Arcamm · Jul 12, 2016

I hadn't thought of that! Would priority label have a time stamp that would be valid?

dreadpirate · Jul 12, 2016

amg5161 said:
Tried to complete a Form 1 last night the site wouldn't upload/accept my trust. Anyone else have any problems like this? Thanks.

When did you try? This past weekend their server ran out of file space (looking at the error messages that came back - which are a bad idea from a security standpoint).

They do have a finite limit. My NFA trust is 604KB and it worked.

dreadpirate · Jul 12, 2016

sundazes said:
Just got this trying to log on to Eforms:

eForms Outage

We have been experiencing issues with the eForms system the past few days. We are working to restore it to service soon, but we do not have an estimated time for return to service.

However, with the changes to the filing requirements resulting from Final Rule 41F (go to the ATF website (www.atf.gov) for information) becoming effective on July 13, 2016, you may wish to file a paper application. Please be aware that the effective date is set by the Final Rule and cannot be extended.

A PDF of the form 1 application is available on the ATF website (Firearms forms function) where it can be downloaded and completed to be filed to the address on the form. The form may also be found by clicking on the following link: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/f...-and-register-firearm-atf-form-53201/download

If the submission is postmarked prior to July 13, 2016, it will be processed under the current requirements. If postmarked on or after July 13, 2016, the new requirements will apply.

Oh wow - well there you go.

amg5161 · Jul 13, 2016

Very convenient the site experienced even more problems than normal. Hope everyone was able to get all the items in that they wanted to.

parttimer · Jul 13, 2016

I started filing a form 1 on the eforms site on the 11th but was unable to complete it due to the site crashing. I am going to send an email to the ATF asking if it is completed when ever they get the site back up will it still be grandfathered due to it being started prior to the deadline. As soon as I get an answer from them I will post there reply.
I am not optimistic about what they will say but, it never hurts to ask.

Melnic · Jul 13, 2016

parttimer said:
I started filing a form 1 on the eforms site on the 11th but was unable to complete it due to the site crashing. I am going to send an email to the ATF asking if it is completed when ever they get the site back up will it still be grandfathered due to it being started prior to the deadline. As soon as I get an answer from them I will post there reply.
I am not optimistic about what they will say but, it never hurts to ask.

I had completed one early in the morning and then it became sluggish and kept crashing on me by 8:30am so I did not do the other one I meant to do. (sent in paper last night)

Wayne1one · Jul 13, 2016

I have a feeling that they are implementing the new eform procedures, so no access until it's up and running.

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