What happened here

jaybee · Aug 1, 2013

If I posted in the wrong spot - please move

I bought this in my travels and what can you folks tell me about it

on the bottom it says
WNY 9-905
6-PDR
ECP SPF

question is what happened

you can see the brass was formed into a chamber and then deformed
and before you ask - yes I may sell it and it would make a great customer draw in the shop

interesting

rj1974 · Aug 1, 2013

Looks like someone sets their dies wrong .

Bullfrog · Aug 1, 2013

Ramming the shell into an obstructed chamber? :confused:

Threeband · Aug 1, 2013

Looks good.

It's supposed to be a little hard to close the breech. That's what the sledge hammer is for.

Boom Boom · Aug 1, 2013

Bullfrog said:
Ramming the shell into an obstructed chamber?

That's my guess, too. Ramming a new shell into a spent shell casing stuck in the chamber.

JHE1956 · Aug 1, 2013

Off the top of my head I can think of two six-pounder guns. There was the British six-pounder anti-tank gun, known in American service as the 57mm. There was also a turn of the century naval six pounder that was used on battleships for protection against torpedo boats. That gun was also used in the early British Mark I and Mark IV tanks. If I had to guess I would say the shell was from the WWI tank gun. Maybe that will give us a clue how the casing deformed?

Brychan · Aug 2, 2013

What you have there is a very rare accordion cased projectile

KH195 · Aug 2, 2013

Found something very similar to that in the box of goodies my great grandfather brought back from WWI (although it was a smaller shell than yours), we always assumed it was a trench art piece. I'm actually going to my parents house tomorrow and they have it there, will get some pics to show the similarities.

Ganegrei · Aug 2, 2013

Where the heck did you get that ruler? That thing is almost as much of an antique as the shell.

mdram · Aug 2, 2013

little google shows this

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Military-History-669/2012/1/shell-casing-3.htm

JHE1956 · Aug 2, 2013

mdram said:
little google shows this

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Military-History-669/2012/1/shell-casing-3.htm

Yep: That is the same gun that was used on both US and British Battleships and was adapted for the early British tanks (a short barrel version was used in the MK IV "Male" tanks).

Cyclone · Aug 2, 2013

double feed

reverendbeer · Aug 3, 2013

jaybee said:
If I posted in the wrong spot - please move

I bought this in my travels and what can you folks tell me about it

on the bottom it says
WNY 9-905
6-PDR
ECP SPF

question is what happened

I think it's pretty obvious.

KH195 · Aug 3, 2013

Here's the one that was with my great grandfathers WWI stuff, apparently there is a second one still in the family somewhere. Looks pretty deliberate which is why we were thinking trench art from during or shortly after the war. This one is a three pounder shell.

KH195 · Aug 3, 2013

Pic of the markings

jaybee · Aug 3, 2013

Ganegrei said:
Where the heck did you get that ruler? That thing is almost as much of an antique as the shell.

the ruler is almost 50 years old - I bought it at a flea mkt

I thought it was really neat and the business is long gone

bout da shell

I'm thinking maybe it was an auto loader and it wasn't that uncommon for a misload. The guys then kept them as souviners

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