jmcgonig
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My understanding is that Utah is very protective of that information. So nobody knows, not even the Utah police.
Is there a downside to having a CCW?
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My understanding is that Utah is very protective of that information. So nobody knows, not even the Utah police.
jmcgonig
Active Member
Personally, WHEN I get my permit and am pulled over I will always tell the officer I have a carry permit if in that state and whether or not I am carrying. I'd rather not guess if the officer knows or not.
I think I would be a nervous officer if I ran someones license and found out they had a CCW and they didn't say anything. I don't like nervous officers...
I think I would be a nervous officer if I ran someones license and found out they had a CCW and they didn't say anything. I don't like nervous officers...
Dreago
Ultimate Member
- Jul 27, 2009
- 2,542
Sure there is...it's short enough that they can jot it on a gum wrapper before their shift starts.
Sure there is...it's short enough that they can jot it on a gum wrapper before their shift starts.
There sort of is sort of isn't.
If you send the MSP a freedom of information act request with a specific name, they will reply if the person has a permit or not.
They won't release the whole list of everyone though.
PapiBarcelona
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- Jan 1, 2011
- 7,359
I read on the internet a claxon sirens similar to world war 2 submarines and red warning lights start blipping with "gun owner" inside police cars when gun owners are pulled over for whatever.
esqappellate
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- Feb 12, 2012
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Biggfoot44
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- Aug 2, 2009
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So far seems to be 3 different subjects in this thread . Esq has answered one at length with citations.
If you volentarily present a Utah CCW to an ofc , there is an 24/7 contact number for LE to verify validity.
* At this Time * in Md CCWs are not linked to DLs or MVA Registrations.
* At this Time * Md does not require you anounce that you are carrying and/ or have issued a CCW.. ( Wisdom of such things is a seperate discussion.)
Expect all the above and more to be discussed at next session of GA.
If you search for such things , there have been massive overreactions by LE frequently in specific jurisdictions, and occasionally to rarely anywhere. *Usually* does not happen .
But as mentioned above , in any combination , none of the above is resoning to forego having a CCw ( and presumably being able to be Armed ).
If you volentarily present a Utah CCW to an ofc , there is an 24/7 contact number for LE to verify validity.
* At this Time * in Md CCWs are not linked to DLs or MVA Registrations.
* At this Time * Md does not require you anounce that you are carrying and/ or have issued a CCW.. ( Wisdom of such things is a seperate discussion.)
Expect all the above and more to be discussed at next session of GA.
If you search for such things , there have been massive overreactions by LE frequently in specific jurisdictions, and occasionally to rarely anywhere. *Usually* does not happen .
But as mentioned above , in any combination , none of the above is resoning to forego having a CCw ( and presumably being able to be Armed ).
Tman68
Active Member
I just paid for a PPS and did the Maryland paperwork for the first time 4 days ago and one of the forms required my DL and they take a copy of it also, so they may or may not link it yet but I'm sure it will happen someday.
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Kilroy
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- Jul 27, 2011
- 3,069
Getting killed because you didn't have a good way of defending yourself is a downside of not having a CCW.
Personally, the worst thing about having a CCW is that the gun can be uncomfortable to carry at times. But I turn that into a reason to buy more gun stuff, so I guess that's an advantage?
Personally, the worst thing about having a CCW is that the gun can be uncomfortable to carry at times. But I turn that into a reason to buy more gun stuff, so I guess that's an advantage?
- Nov 11, 2009
- 30,886
This is an interesting point on which to hijack the thread. Has there been any research done by folks such as MSI to determine whether any of the anti legislators has a carry permit? Hypocrisy review can be useful at some stage of the proceedings, I would think.
Maybe this should be a sticky. It would be awesome if we could address letters to some people...."I know you have one, why can't I?"
Lawman1800
Active Member
- Jul 29, 2012
- 144
If a officer runs your name through teletype and you have a concealed carry permit in the state of maryland, he is going to get that information. If he is only pulling up your mva information on his MDC then he will not.
Tell that to the WV guy who volunteered he was carrying (in MD.) because he thought there was reciprocity. (Can't find the thread right now. Will edit later if I can find.)
Rule #1...Know the laws of the states you are passing through. (ie, required to inform or not. If you are even legally carrying due to reciprocity.) Then conform to the law.
totally different scenario. the wv was driving in maryland and didnt follow the law nor checked that his wv ccw is no good in md.
esq. cooment was if the person is carrying legally in the state and got stop in the legal state.
Is it this gem?
http://forum.pafoa.org/general-2/68348-i-pissed-my-pants-today-maryland.html
Pennsylvanian thought he was in West Virginia...
Also, the GeorgiaPacking thread on the Cobb County Georgia traffic stop is interesting, at least the first page or two.
http://www.georgiapacking.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=49871
That thread started two years ago, and is still active.
Interesting reading.
Edit to add-
I see you were referring to the recent thread here about the Oblivious Guy. Well, enjoy my links anyway.
Biggfoot44
Ultimate Member
- Aug 2, 2009
- 33,108
The OP ( nd others of similar inquiries ) needs to consider the subject in terms of The Big Picture .
The Big Question is not wether there might be occasional invonvience in regards to having a Permit. The two questions are :
Are you better off with a Permit than being unarmed ?
Are you better off haaving a Permit or carrying illegally in a State with a Mandaatory Munium jail time for illegal carry ?
The Big Question is not wether there might be occasional invonvience in regards to having a Permit. The two questions are :
Are you better off with a Permit than being unarmed ?
Are you better off haaving a Permit or carrying illegally in a State with a Mandaatory Munium jail time for illegal carry ?
esqappellate
President, MSI
- Feb 12, 2012
- 7,408
Sorry, my response assumed that he was carrying legally. If he was carrying illegally, then I have no advice to offer other than DON'T.
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