Gaspasser19
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The Pitfalls of Cheap Gunsafes....
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Rich1911
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How do they know it only took 10 minutes?
safecracker
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Video cam timestamped them hitting the back door and leaving with bundles of loot less than ten minutes later. The victim was obviously targeted. There are some telltale signs that this isn't the thieves first foray into safe burglary. And before any of you ask, no I'm not getting into those details.
Immersion
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So in your opinion, what would be your top 3 suggestions for safes? Thanks for sharing, btw!
safecracker
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Chatwood-Milner
Kaso
John Tann
Jewelry-grade containers designed to protect millions.
As far as specific GUN safes, I have always liked AMSEC, Browning, and Liberty. HOWEVER, be aware that they all have their low-grade, economy models which are on par with the subject of this thread.
Kaso
John Tann
Jewelry-grade containers designed to protect millions.
As far as specific GUN safes, I have always liked AMSEC, Browning, and Liberty. HOWEVER, be aware that they all have their low-grade, economy models which are on par with the subject of this thread.
Immersion
You have that power too
Got it. Thanks again! With what I've seen in this thread, it seems like it's just not worth it to skimp out on quality! Furthermore, I'm curious what that person did to get targeted and what we can do to avoid being targeted.
Trepang
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Lostinbmore
Junior grade mop slopper
I've always have had a feeling that if someone was going to break into my house... It's not going to be the safe they come for... But it will be the reason they come back.
I just made the assumption that if they went straight to the side they knew enough about safes that the door was the longest yard to enter the safe... So they would've had to have researched safes... Only reason they would've done that is because they knew it was there and what was in it... The van in the background and the brand of the safe doesn't scream "hayfields mansion" so the attention from a pro would be less likely. So the safe was probably caused by the thief when it was being installed or from someone who knows he family or has visited like a tradesman or similar.
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I just made the assumption that if they went straight to the side they knew enough about safes that the door was the longest yard to enter the safe... So they would've had to have researched safes... Only reason they would've done that is because they knew it was there and what was in it... The van in the background and the brand of the safe doesn't scream "hayfields mansion" so the attention from a pro would be less likely. So the safe was probably caused by the thief when it was being installed or from someone who knows he family or has visited like a tradesman or similar.
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This is the dirty secret that people don't want to discuss, which is that with the right power tools, you can rip through even the good stuff with surprising quickness. That's not an excuse for having a 14ga safe, of course... you don't want them to be able to just crack it open with a fire axe.
mancheechee
Daily Trigger
SafeCracker would be you best knowledge source with his expertise. I just purchased couple Champions and I looked and research every blog forum possible for more info. I say NO GO for that model. you need at least their Triumph (TR). If I had just bought one, I'd have gone with their Crown series. But my promary focus was fire protect level and the triumph was good enough for me. I've sold most of my guns just bare minimal, my wife's scrapbooks are family treasures and have more value.
My best choice, if I had the funds and serious number of guns, would have been AMSEC upper models.
mancheechee
Daily Trigger
This. Unless you have at least a 1/2 body steel, it will be torn into. That's why home security service is a must with any other safes.
chesapeakeIRON
Ultimate Member
This
Better to get home security first that wish you had later. In addition to a safe of course
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Once you get into UL rated safes in the TL15x6 or TL30x6 category, a regular angle grinder wont get you far. A demolition saw with abrasive blades or a professional core-drill will get you in, but not the kind of stuff you find in a homeowners toolbox.
All it takes is money.
... and concrete to pour the extra foundation you need for a TL30 big enough to hold long guns.
mancheechee
Daily Trigger
Vivint security offers some great security options for good prices right now. You can even ask for waiver on the install fee to get them to sell you a contract.
I really like their video monitoring...it senses movement and sends you a clip of the video to your phone. So you can even call the police even before the alarm goes off, if they were to break in because you'll see the burglars snooping around, in the first place.
And I would also consider a secondary security inside the room with the safe or pointing in the direction of the safe...such as Piper security. That way, you can yell at the burglars that cops are on their way and that your neighbor is ready for them with a gun...or something like that.
I really like their video monitoring...it senses movement and sends you a clip of the video to your phone. So you can even call the police even before the alarm goes off, if they were to break in because you'll see the burglars snooping around, in the first place.
And I would also consider a secondary security inside the room with the safe or pointing in the direction of the safe...such as Piper security. That way, you can yell at the burglars that cops are on their way and that your neighbor is ready for them with a gun...or something like that.
Virtual class I hope!
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clandestine
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Actual class.
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