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  • swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,394
    Westminster USA
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    1. Northam signs bill to allow private and religious schools to have armed school security officers
    2. VCDL/GOA lawsuit on the bump stock ban update
    3. Another, more detailed, video on firearms retention during close quarters combat
    4. An excellent article on the gun-conroller's disarmament plans for us

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    1. Northam signs bill to allow private and religious schools to have armed school security officers
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    Governor Northam has signed HB 1656, Delegate Mark Cole, into law. Starting on July 1, private and religious schools can hire armed school security officers.

    That leaves three bills yet to be acted on. Northam doesn't have to respond to them before March 26:

    HB 2253, Delegate Pogge, requires the Virginia State Police to process non-resident CHPs within 90 days. This bill would become effective on October 1, 2019.

    HB 2548, Delegate Rush, requires that information on persons who have had their firearms rights restored be available to police in the field 24/7.

    SB 1179, Senator Stuart, allows military personnel domiciled in Virginia, but stationed out of state, to apply for a resident CHP to the Circuit Court Clerk in the area where they are domiciled.


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    2. VCDL/GOA lawsuit on the bump stock ban update
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    The VCDL/GOA bump-stock lawsuit is ongoing. The Court will hear our request on March 6 to put a stay on the bump-stock ban until the Court can rule on our lawsuit.

    The regulation goes into effect on March 26 if we can't get a stay.

    There is no need to do anything with your bump stocks for the time being, and certainly not before March 26. Stay tuned!


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    3. Another, more detailed, video on firearms retention during close quarters combat
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    Thanks to member Dennis Mennerich for this link. The video also shows the retention technique with LIVE FIRE!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stBfi_iru5M


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    4. An excellent article on the gun-conroller's disarmament plans for us
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    Tom Gresham, a gun-rights radio personality (host of Gun Talk), lays out the plan that has been telegraphed by the gun controllers. He also talks about derailing those plans:

    https://guntalk.com/news/politics/tipping-their-hand


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    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
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    Michael Bloomberg expects a return on his investments. With well over one million dollars given to the Northam campaign for Governor, he's getting some of those returns with veto after veto of pro-self-defense bills. Northam has vetoed a total of 11 pro-self-defense bills so far since he has been governor.

    Governor Northam's first veto this year was Delegate Brenda Pogge's HB 2253, which would have required the Virginia State Police (VSP) to do their job in a timely manner (oh, the horrors of that!).

    As is, Virginia is charging $100 for a non-resident CHP and making applicants wait FIVE or SIX MONTHS to get their permit. Local government can do the same job for $15 and get it done usually well under 45 days. (Pennsylvania charges $20 and can issue the permit often the same day, while you wait. Worse case is 10 days if you do it through the mail. Texas charges $40 and does it in 60 days. Utah charges $62 for new permits and issues them in 60 days; $15 for renewals and issues them in 14 days! Of the 20 states that issue non-resident permits, the average time is 72 days and the average cost is $83.51. The average cost is greatly inflated by Illinois, which charges a ridiculous $300 for their permits. The next highest is Florida which is $112 for a SEVEN year permit, which is issued in 90 days.)

    That's inefficiency on a grand scale.

    HB 2253 would have given the VSP TWICE as long to process a non-resident permit as local government is allowed to process a resident permit: 90 days. Even then almost every other state kicks Virginia's rear end when it comes to cost and time to process non-resident permits.

    The Governor had to give his "reasons" for vetoing HB 2253, so let's take a careful look at them while trying not to throw up:

    Pursuant to Article V, Section 6, of the Constitution of Virginia, I veto House Bill 2253, which would create public safety concerns, place an arbitrary and overly burdensome mandate on the Virginia Department of State Police, and irresponsibly utilize taxpayer dollars to prioritize nonresident applications over resident needs.

    [PVC: That is a lot of lies and misinformation to squeeze into a single sentence, but by golly, Northam did it! Public safety concerns? We are talking about the most law abiding of the law abiding. Arbitrary and burdensome? There should always be a limit on how long any government agency can drag their heels. Right now the VSP has NO LIMIT on how inefficient they can be. And if all the other states can issue permits faster than ninety days, just how "burdened" is VSP in having a full NINETY DAYS to do what local government can do in half that time? Irresponsible use of tax payer dollars? That's a whopping lie. The non-resident applicant is paying $100, which more than covers the cost of the background check and anything else the VSP has to do to issue that permit. Virginia tax payers aren't paying a dime.]

    This legislation has significant public safety implications, as it would require the Virginia Department of State Police to issue a de facto nonresident concealed handgun permit if the agency fails to complete its review of an application within 90 days. This not only places an arbitrary and burdensome mandate on the Virginia Department of State Police, but would also undoubtedly result in ineligible nonresidents obtaining permits. In order to protect public safety, it is critical that the Virginia Department of State Police be afforded the necessary time to review all available criminal history information and fully investigate each application.

    [PVC: The problem is that the VSP is not getting the job done in a reasonable amount of time. Not even close. Vetoing HB 2253 is punishing citizens because of the VSP's horrible inefficiencies. When the VSP first issued non-resident CHPs, they frequently did so in as little as TWO WEEKS. But now they are dragging their heals and Northam is happy with that.]

    Additionally, this legislation would force the Virginia Department of State Police to use already limited staff and taxpayer dollars to expedite processing of nonresident requests to meet this unreasonable requirement. As governor, it is my responsibility to ensure good stewardship of taxpayer dollars and resources.

    [PVC: More happy horse manure. There is plenty of money to hire more staff. Considering the VSP can run the main part of any background check in a few minutes, this is hardly "expediting" anything. Again, Northam is lying about the use of taxpayer dollars to fund the background check. The CHP applicant is paying for that, not the taxpayer. As governor, it's his responsibility and duty to tell the voters the truth, and not make up lies to explain why he is taking this anti-self-defense action.]

    Accordingly, I veto this bill.

    [PVC: Since gun control, including the permitting system, is rooted in racism, I hope the Governor's absurd reasons for the veto weren't also driven by a fear of giving minorities a permit.]


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    danb

    dont be a dumbass
    Feb 24, 2013
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    google is your friend, I am not.
    Northam is in trouble, as are all the bloomturd clowns down there. VSP faces the very real prospect of a Republican gov who wont protect incompetence. Just like the NR reciprocity shenanigans a few years ago, it would be better for everyone if the controversy just went away.

    ETA: Also I am not quite sure its "incompetence." I was under the impression the gov intentionally slowed things down to give Bloomturd a reach around. if the gov is slowing down he can un-slow it down too.
     

    press1280

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    Jun 11, 2010
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    If VA (Northam in particular) wants to play that game then non residents will just OC or just go somewhere else for a non-resident permit, and probably save a few bucks and time. So he's "solved" nothing.
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,394
    Westminster USA
    And since VA honors all other states’ permits, there is no compelling reason to get a VA NR permit.

    Other than to comply with the GFSZA
     

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