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  • alucard0822

    For great Justice
    Oct 29, 2007
    17,643
    PA
    I think the most amazing thing about the wikileaks/e-mails was that judging by all the polling data they DIDN'T change anything. Pretty much the only Clinton scandal that moved the polls was Clinton dropping at the speech, getting dragged off to the van, and the obvious BS coverup, which didn't involve a hack at all. So far nobody has disputed that any leaked e-mail is authentic, that the Barry-O admin, DNC and Clinton campaign are probably the most hateful, dishonest, corrupt, and criminal group to ever find themselves at the top of the political ladder in the US. The only thing the band of proven liars has to say in their defense is that those e-mails were illegally obtained by Russia, with nothing other than conjecture as "proof".

    If there is proof, then present it to congress, and let them do their job to hold investigative hearings, pass bills and make sure it doesn't happen again, but the administration and their agencies refuse to present any proof. IMO doesn't matter much who exposed the e-mails, although should have been the US media, but they were part of the corruption. If Russia was behind the hack, figured Americans would witness proof of criminal corruption, and overwhelmingly elect the more favorable candidate, it seems their only error was over-estimating the integrity of Americans, and under estimating the level of corruption we have come to expect from our politicians. Might be Russia, might be someone else, the only real lesson to come out of it was that when a political party and their presidential nominee is exposed for massive corruption, nobody really cares.
     

    RobbieDigital

    Active Member
    Dec 29, 2016
    125
    No, we elect to ignore it because we have yet to be shown any of the conveniently classified evidence.

    Show me the evidence that the Russians altered the outcome of the election then I will get my knickers knotted.

    Showing a handful of Russians the exit is not evidence.

    Too bad Obama doesn't show millions of illegals the door!

    The Russians should just go to sanctuary city and ride it out until Trump gets in.
     

    protegeV

    Ready to go
    Apr 3, 2011
    46,880
    TX
    This is whole Russia affected an election spin crap is just that. Fact Russia did not hack the election. Evidence points to Russia hacking the DNC email, that is the only thing that can be hung around Russia's neck for affecting the election. They did not fraudulently change votes through nefarious actions on the interwebz, they used the one thing the left thought was on their side the whole time the MSM, Liberals are pissed that the MSM spent more time chasing a story about them then trying to tear down Trump. Now Obama is trying to start a full Cyber World War to save face and throw a few more bags of shit on the pile for Trump to clean up.

    Well, you know the dems only play the smoke/fire game to their benefit. Russia hacked the dnc? Oh, then they obviously rigged the election too.
    Libs have a secret sex ring in DC? Fake news.......
     

    robmints

    Ultimate Member
    Jan 20, 2011
    5,092
    35 individuals being expelled are diplomats. Update: These diplomats have been identified as cover intel operatives (not unique to Ru, plenty of countries including US do it, the point is not to get caught :P)

    The 6 Ru individuals being sanctioned are specifically named GRU leaders and cyber operators/ facilitators. Update: 4x of the top GRU chiefs and 2x GRU-affiliated cyber criminals.

    Two of the Ru entities being sanctioned are the entirety of GRU and SVR (Ru's military and foreign intel services), and the other three are front companies for GRU.

    2 Ru spy compounds being closed in Maryland and New York. this is IMO the craziest part. Update: Homeland Security Adviser says these were legally bought as recreational facilities by Ru govt, but were monitored by US intel for years as bases for Ru surveillance ops, and says these are just the first wave in a crackdown.

    The technical details of the Russian cyber intrusion sets will be publicly released to render them moot for public good and force Ru to develop new ones. Update: Looks like theyre starting the release

    Alongside the technical files, the official US report is out, formally stating that the USIC, DHS, and FBI assess it was Russian intelligence services based on classified evidence (an upgrade from the anonymous leaks and official 'probably' statements from the past few months): https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296.pdf




    And you guys just wanted to ignore this because it does not fit into your narrative...

    You are deflecting.

    Evidence? If you have some, let's see it.
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,394
    Westminster USA
    if I break into a house to steal 50 bucks, and find a homicide, has another crime been committed?

    these people are completely bat guano crazy.
     

    ashershapiro

    Banned
    BANNED!!!
    Apr 11, 2014
    382
    Okay, it looks like Trump is going to clear everything up on Tuesday or Wednesday, so there's no point in arguing over this right now.
     

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