Md legal 7.62x39 semi-auto besides Mini-30 and SKS

LibertyGun · Oct 12, 2016

Besides the Mini-30 and SKS, what are options in Md for a 7.62x39 semi-auto?

kalister1 · Oct 12, 2016

You can get an AR15 upper in 7.62 X 39

AssMan · Oct 12, 2016

VZ58/2008
Galil Ace
CMMG Mutant
AR chambered in 7.62x39
Egyptian Rasheed
Sig 556 series Russians
Creative Arms ARK
RRA LAR-47
PSA KS47

I'm sure there are others. You working on a list to give to MGA next year? :innocent0

MacGuns · Oct 12, 2016

Sig Sauer 556r or Sig Sauer 556xi Russian
CMMG Mutant
CZ v58 and the other model I can't remember the name of

Lots of options and I'm sure others can complete the list.

chooks9 · Oct 12, 2016

VZ-58>VZ-2008. Better than an AK in my opinion.
There's a x39 Vepr too. Great guns.

ken792 · Oct 12, 2016

The folding stock Vz.58 will beat up your face. If you can still find one cheap, they're good guns though.

GunnerGunz · Oct 12, 2016

any AR in 7.62 39 or does it have to be an HBar too?

outrider58 · Oct 12, 2016

GunnerGunz said:
any AR in 7.62 39 or does it have to be an HBar too?

No Hbar needed.

GunnerGunz · Oct 12, 2016

outrider58 said:
No Hbar needed.

cool, I may have to look into this one

ken792 · Oct 12, 2016

Don't forget the RPD. The belts get around the MD mag limit too, so you can get them in state.

LibertyGun · Oct 12, 2016

Awesome list of stuff, didn't realize there are so many choices! Now I got lots of very fun reading to do. Thanks!

LibertyGun · Oct 12, 2016

GunnerGunz said:
any AR in 7.62 39 or does it have to be an HBar too?

I know about this choice and good to know HBAR doesn't apply. Sounds like for some people 7.62 upper works perfect and others not so great. I have a Stag Arms model 3, haven't found a post yet for best 7.62 upper for that and I don't believe Stag makes them. Having just got an AR I didn't fully appreciate how flexible it is, not the tacticool accessories but the caliber changes.

LibertyGun · Oct 12, 2016

snallygaster said:
VZ58/2008
Galil Ace
CMMG Mutant
AR chambered in 7.62x39
Egyptian Rasheed
Sig 556 series Russians
Creative Arms ARK
RRA LAR-47
PSA KS47

I'm sure there are others. You working on a list to give to MGA next year?

Thank you!

AssMan · Oct 12, 2016

LibertyGun said:
Thank you!

Biggfoot44 · Oct 12, 2016

Did anyone say MCX yet ?

AR 7.62x39 issues are mostly mag related.

LibertyGun · Oct 13, 2016

Did a quick analysis in case someone has a similar question in the future.

Original question was: Besides the Mini-30 and SKS, what are options in Md for a 7.62x39 semi-auto?
I would refine this to be: Besides the Mini-30 and SKS, what are options in Md for a 7.62x39 semi-auto that can:
(1) shoot cheap ammo/is reliable
(2) can use AK or widely available mags (e.g. AK or AR platform) or stripper clips
(3) preferably sub $1000

I can't speak to (1) on the below, although that is main reason for me to not consider the Mini-30 despite being a big fan of the Mini platform. It appears to require mods to deal with foreign steel ammo and sometimes the mods don't seem enough.

Here's my analysis:

1. VZ58/2008: < $1000 (2008), proprietary mags
2. Galil Ace: > $1000, AK mags
3. CMMG Mutant: > $1000, AK mags
4. AR upper chambered in 7.62x39: < $1000 (even < $500), AR style mags
5. Egyptian Rasheed: extremely rare rifle probably > $1000, uses strippers clips
6. Sig 556 series Russians: > $1000, AK mags
7. Creative Arms ARK: slightly > $1000, AK mags
8. RRA LAR-47: slightly > $1000, AK mags
9. PSA KS47: < $1000, AR style mags
10. MCX: > $1000, AR style mags
11. RPD: > $1000 (most expensive in list at > $2000), drum mags, might not be easy to get but might be able to get them in-state
12. PTR-32: >$1000, AK mags (gen II and later PTR-32)

I like the VZ2008 the most, however the mag looks problematic. Since we're in Md, high-cap mags have to be ordered to ship out of state/purchase directly out of state which can be inconvenient for a hard to get mag. The AR upper appears to be the overall winner, very cheap. The AR style mags are less available than AK style mags but guessing they should not be too much of a problem to get.

fidelity · Oct 13, 2016

Nice analysis. I've been caught in a similar conundrum. The VZ-2008 has appeal, except for the mag system.

I have a PSA KS-47 which is mag finicky, and thus have AK style mags that are incompatible with it and want a modestly priced firearm that will take these mags. Otherwise I too might have gone for an AR-15 upper that can chamber 7.62x39.

I do have the PTR-32 on my list of possibilities, as should you, as it is in the middle of the pack for pricing and has a good reputation for reliability. The only thing that makes me pause is that it's a heavier system (an appeal of the VZ-2008, even the tactical model that Atlantic currently has in stock, is that it's lightweight).

If money were no object and I was more familiar with options when I started, I would have already purchased the Sig 556 Russian or Galil Ace, and not be posting. In retrospect, if I had known that the KS-47 would have mag issues, I would have gone for either of these two rifles (or the CMMG Mutant) instead.

As it is, I'm looking at AK-47 pistols (MD legal) and possibly adding a Sig stabilizing brace (SB-47) to one. This would achieve my goal of a pricepoint under $1000, provide a system that uses AK-47 mags, and should be fine with steel cased ammo. Beyond price, the only distinguishing criteria are reputation for reliability, acceptable accuracy, and possibly a rail to facilitate adding a red dot (notable how this is less than straightforward with some options). Haven't had much time to do this research, beyond getting to this focal point of an AK-47 pistol.

Obviously a pistol will have more transport restrictions in MD. I'm fine with this, as it's meant to be a range toy unless there's a precipitating need to expand its use.

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janklow · Oct 13, 2016

fidelity said:
As it is, I'm looking at AK-47 pistols (MD legal) and possibly adding a Sig stabilizing brace (SB-47) to one. This would achieve my goal of a pricepoint under $1000, provide a system that uses AK-47 mags, and should be fine with steel cased ammo. Beyond price, the only distinguishing criteria are reputation for reliability, acceptable accuracy, and possibly a rail to facilitate adding a red dot (notable how this is less than straightforward with some options). Haven't had much time to do this research, beyond getting to this focal point of an AK-47 pistol.

Obviously a pistol will have more transport restrictions in MD. I'm fine with this, as it's meant to be a range toy unless there's a precipitating need to expand its use.

does also give you the option to look into SBRing it down the line if you later have more to spend on it and you don't mind going THAT route.

LibertyGun · Oct 13, 2016

fidelity said:
I do have the PTR-32 on my list of possibilities, as should you, as it is in the middle of the pack for pricing and has a good reputation for reliability. The only thing that makes me pause is that it's a heavier system (an appeal of the VZ-2008, even the tactical model that Atlantic currently has in stock, is that it's lightweight).

Thanks for that, I checked it out and put it on the list.

Despite being heavy the SKS is looking like a good choice. I had been leaning towards it, started this thread to see what other choices there are in the sub $1k.

fidelity · Oct 13, 2016

LibertyGun said:
Thanks for that, I checked it out and put it on the list.

Despite being heavy the SKS is looking like a good choice. I had been leaning towards it, started this thread to see what other choices there are in the sub $1k.

If going for an SKS, check out Top Guns in addition to SOG.

http://www.topgunsupply.com/firearms/used-guns.html

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