brian0128
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Thanks for posting the information and making it usable by the members of the forum.
My HPRB Hearing for your Pleasure
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That was fascinating to listen to.
It sounded, to me, like the board basically didn't like the idea of people having to lie or mislead about being on business all the time, so they only approved it for that reason and didn't address the testimony regarding palpable need and the news articles cited. I was working while listening so maybe I missed it.
If that is the case, this is a base to make business purpose permits unrestricted, but not issue permits for palpable need/ general self defense?
It sounded, to me, like the board basically didn't like the idea of people having to lie or mislead about being on business all the time, so they only approved it for that reason and didn't address the testimony regarding palpable need and the news articles cited. I was working while listening so maybe I missed it.
If that is the case, this is a base to make business purpose permits unrestricted, but not issue permits for palpable need/ general self defense?
mxrider
Former MSI Treasurer
As I have stated, I began this journey primarily for the benefit of the community, while achieving some personal satisfaction
I somewhat agree with your observation. The discussion by the board surrounded the "gray" areas that could cause someone to lose their rights forever. With that being said, the vote was based on the totality of everything presented to them.
If I were to do it again, I would only change my approach by adding in the law as it was written prior to FSA2013 and the penalty for carrying outside of your restriction and the law as it is written now.
For anyone going through this process of trying to get their restrictions removed, I would encourage you to do the same.
TrappRd
Member
- May 26, 2012
- 15
Very Good, Congrats, Thanks MX
Nobody
Ultimate Member
- Jan 15, 2009
- 2,844
Have you received your new permit?
Nobody
Nobody
mxrider
Former MSI Treasurer
Not only have I not received it, the letter that is to be sent to the MSP by the HPRB has not yet been voted and approved by the board.
mxrider
Former MSI Treasurer
Just received my letter and I have posted a redacted copy in the OP for anyone wishing to view it.
MXRider's HPRB Hearing and Documents
MXRider's HPRB Hearing and Documents
redeemed.man
Ultimate Member
It looks like you need an msi log in. Mine has never worked
any other way you can share letter?Time is running out register for the Dottrio shoot today! The event is on 10/29/16. This is not spam. We are a mdshooters industry partner! https://dottrio.eventbrite.com
mxrider
Former MSI Treasurer
It looks like you need an msi log in. Mine has never worked
I can fix that for you
It's supposed to be viewable to everyone. Odd......
Anyhow, here you go:
redeemed.man
Ultimate Member
Remarkable how even your letter talks about a further layer of G&S related to restrictions when this exists nowhere in the law. Either you have G&S or your don't. Where does it say that you need additional G&S for an unrestricted permit? Ridiculous.
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congrats. your relentless pursuit of truth justice and the American Way have prevailed.
well sort of..
It should be that simple, but...
I see it as just extra padding and justification from the board in doing what they did. Can't give the MSP and inch, because they'll take a mile.
Mind blown by the "play by play" description of discussion by the board. I really thought these letters would be more cut and dried.
Congrats OP, let us know when you receive your laminated love letter from the MSP.
Congrats OP, let us know when you receive your laminated love letter from the MSP.
mxrider
Former MSI Treasurer
We'll see. They have up to 30 days to challenge it....
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I can fix that for you
It's supposed to be viewable to everyone. Odd......
Anyhow, here you go:
The MSP imposed restrictions found " . . . impractical, unreasonable and unnecessary . . . under the totality of the facts." Kudos to the Board for interjecting logic back into this process, and thank you mxrider for posting so others can see the Board's well-reasoned conclusion under the law.
Somewhere in the left lane Lone Ranger weeps.
Thank you for posting this. I am working on the wording for my application .
So, what is your actual renewal date? 
Another thank you as well. My new business should be up and running in the early part of January. I'll be coming back to these threads for all the great information provided. You have made it much easier for those who follow in your footsteps.
After I read the approval letter, I wasn't sure if I should laugh or cry. We could cross the border in 4 directions and avoid all this BS. It's criminal.
After I read the approval letter, I wasn't sure if I should laugh or cry. We could cross the border in 4 directions and avoid all this BS. It's criminal.
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