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TexDefender · Mar 12, 2019

I image that is limited to just the "regulated" firearms, and I'm not sure but I don't the law will apply to the state.

Ammo Jon · Mar 12, 2019

Don H said:
So you called LD and they told you how many firearms you own and offered a copy of the record on each one?

Correct, how many handguns. They stated they have no record of anything by NICS in regards to my long guns.

Sundazes · Mar 12, 2019

They would have record of any 77r firearm, but I don't know how they would have any on a 4473.
The bigger problem is that don't update the records when you transfer a firearm to someone else, so it shows as registered to both. That is my understanding...

Pinecone · Mar 12, 2019

rbird7282 said:
Problem with that is that MSP states they need part of that time to check multiple databases and it's more thorough than a standard NICS check. No way they make us wait less than 7 days. This is The People's Republic after all.

Yes, that is why in the past with the electronic system, you could select Print the form, and see that you were Not Disapproved in 3 days.

Now it says In Process until the 7th day.

Yeap, they really need all that time.

swinokur · Mar 12, 2019

And if you brought a regulated firearm into MD as a new resident before 10-1-13 there will be no record of that either.

bitterkenny · Mar 12, 2019

sundazes said:
The bigger problem is that don't update the records when you transfer a firearm to someone else, so it shows as registered to both. That is my understanding...

Wut? With the thousands of regulated firearms that have been transferred, this would be a nightmare.

swinokur · Mar 12, 2019

bitterkenny said:
Wut? With the thousands of regulated firearms that have been transferred, this would be a nightmare.

This is correct. MSP does not update their record when a previously registered firearm is sold or transferred.

Great system isn’t it?

teratos · Mar 12, 2019

swinokur said:
This is correct. MSP does not update their record when a previously registered firearm is sold or transferred.

Great system isn’t it?

Why aren't the Moms demanding actions on this?

Slimjim · Mar 12, 2019

Are you guys saying that you now have UBCs on any private gun sale and considering that a Win?

F5guy · Mar 12, 2019

rseymorejr said:
You need to remind yourself of the true reason behind all of these laws:

To make owning a gun in Maryland as difficult as possible. If they can discourage new shooters they will eventually win.

Same reason they shot down Sunday hunting earlier in this session.

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chilipeppermaniac · Mar 12, 2019

Sadly, MOMs who raise these kind of boyz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrdOveX4TEk

are what we are up against. Of course then come the friends of these boyz and their Man bun besties, and the politicians like one I recently encountered to say, " We need to make Laws..." when asked about our right to not have laws that infringe when there are ALREADY laws and background checks etc etc on the books.

Bigfoot21075 · Mar 12, 2019

swinokur said:
This is correct. MSP does not update their record when a previously registered firearm is sold or transferred.

Great system isn’t it?

They are not allowed to - THAT would be considered a gun registry.

rbird7282 · Mar 12, 2019

sundazes said:
They would have record of any 77r firearm, but I don't know how they would have any on a 4473.

The bigger problem is that don't update the records when you transfer a firearm to someone else, so it shows as registered to both. That is my understanding...

If you sold it to someone in MD it doesn’t matter. They would be shown as having ownership after you.
The whole thing is ******** though.

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Allen65 · Mar 12, 2019

Bigfoot21075 said:
They are not allowed to - THAT would be considered a gun registry.

You're confusing a federal statutory limit on how ATF can spend its funds, i.e. they're not allowed to spend money on a firearm ownership database (or something similar, I forgot the exact language) with what states can do. There is no such limitation on states. MSP can keep whatever records it wants, however it wants.

Muleskinner · Mar 12, 2019

Allen65 said:
You're confusing a federal statutory limit on how ATF can spend its funds, i.e. they're not allowed to spend money on a firearm ownership database (or something similar, I forgot the exact language) with what states can do. There is no such limitation on states. MSP can keep whatever records it wants, however it wants.

And does. if you have ever filled out a 77 they have it.

Straightshooter · Mar 12, 2019

Ammo Jon said:
Correct, how many handguns. They stated they have no record of anything by NICS in regards to my long guns.

How did they verify it was actually you calling about your guns? Can my neighbor call and ask how many gun I have?

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Ammo Jon · Mar 12, 2019

Straightshooter said:
How did they verify it was actually you calling about your guns? Can my neighbor call and ask how many gun I have?

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Drivers license number.

Rack&Roll · Mar 12, 2019

Slimjim said:
Are you guys saying that you now have UBCs on any private gun sale and considering that a Win?

No.

The Patriot Picket Crew was leafletting Legislators last night that we will not comply with any State interference with private sales or transfers of our long gun private property.

dist1646 · Mar 12, 2019

rseymorejr said:
When any of these gun control bills make to Larry's desk he has a difficult decision to make,
Should he sign it in blue ink or black ink?

Red is the official party color comrade.

Sundazes · Mar 12, 2019

rbird7282 said:
If you sold it to someone in MD it doesn’t matter. They would be shown as having ownership after you.
The whole thing is ******** though.

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I disagree. It does matter. What if you get EPRO’d. The state looks at is registry and sees 100 firearms registered to you. What they don’t see is that you sold off most of your collection and want to know where all those guns are.
Case in point. I had a firearm that I legally sold. Said firearm was used in a felony about 5 years later. Guess who got a knock on the door wanting to know why that firearm was registered to me. Luckily I had a signed bill of sale.
Point is that in the system, it was still registered to me. Do you think that they are going to take the time to do a search on every one to see if someone else might own it now. I don’t.

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