Confirmed: HQL Needed to Take Possession of Handgun After September 30

1. It violates a fundamental civil right; something that the SCOTUS has claimed cannot be taxed/licensed in regards to, what appear to be, more favorable fundamental civil rights.
2. It goes against the oath I swore in 1990 to uphold/defend the COTUS. Even though I no longer wear the uniform, I still view that oath as binding.
3. O'Malley can use all of the applications as a win - "see, even the gun owners agree; look how many applied for my new process..."

MJD438 said:

I really don't know what I want to do about this situation yet. I am an owner of "regulated" firearms, but no handguns. My three Engage lowers were my first-ever firearms purchases, not just my first purchases in MD.

I can't decide if I should wait to see what happens with any potential legal cases or just knuckle under and apply. Conceivably, I could just use my C&R to facilitate handgun purchases, but there are some modern pistols that interest me.

Applying is distasteful for three reasons:

1. It violates a fundamental civil right; something that the SCOTUS has claimed cannot be taxed/licensed in regards to, what appear to be, more favorable fundamental civil rights.
2. It goes against the oath I swore in 1990 to uphold/defend the COTUS. Even though I no longer wear the uniform, I still view that oath as binding.
3. O'Malley can use all of the applications as a win - "see, even the gun owners agree; look how many applied for my new process..."

Not applying is, as others have mentioned, a blanket win for O'Malley, Curran, and their ilk.

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bwceng11 said:

MSP licensing Div is currently working on May 11th forms

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basscat said:

I think it's of popular opinion that you'll need a HQL after Oct 1 to pick up your hand gun that you may have already bought prior to oct 1 while waiting on MSP nd. So if you paid $500 for a M&P with 2 17 round mags and now it's oct 2 will you get your gun minus the mags? Will you be refunded the cost of the mags? Will they give it to you at all? Or are you just plain screwed?

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basscat said:

I think it's of popular opinion that you'll need a HQL after Oct 1 to pick up your hand gun that you may have already bought prior to oct 1 while waiting on MSP nd. So if you paid $500 for a M&P with 2 17 round mags and now it's oct 2 will you get your gun minus the mags? Will you be refunded the cost of the mags? Will they give it to you at all? Or are you just plain screwed?

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basscat said:

I think it's of popular opinion that you'll need a HQL after Oct 1 to pick up your hand gun that you may have already bought prior to oct 1 while waiting on MSP nd. So if you paid $500 for a M&P with 2 17 round mags and now it's oct 2 will you get your gun minus the mags? Will you be refunded the cost of the mags? Will they give it to you at all? Or are you just plain screwed?

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mr h said:

In the MSP meeting yesterday, it was recommended that you pick up your mags ahead of time.

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kalister1 said:

Correct, If the dealer chooses to wait, then you are affected by the DEALER not the STATE. That is why I capitalized STATE. People want to file a suit against the State for forcing them to get the license for a gun they purchased 3 months before the new law. You cannot blame the state if the FFL is the one holding your property because he wants to.
Anyone who buys from a dealer that will not release as soon as allowed by law will need the HQL, BUT, you can't blame the state unless you wait until the last few days of September.

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Daniel87 said:

the gun (including the mags) was purchased before OCT 1st so your can take all of it with you because the paperwork was done before Oct 1. You will still need an HQL if you pickup after Oct 1. Just have it transferred to an 8 day release shop so you don't have to worry about the HQL.

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NickZac said:

So anyone got a list on dealers doing the 8-th day release?

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Daniel87 said:

the gun (including the mags) was purchased before OCT 1st so your can take all of it with you because the paperwork was done before Oct 1. You will still need an HQL if you pickup after Oct 1. Just have it transferred to an 8 day release shop so you don't have to worry about the HQL.

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