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Old July 16th, 2021, 10:25 AM #71
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You’re a smart dude.

Took me 2 years to buy it but i shoved $200 out of every paycheck into an envelope in my safe. After 2 years i walked into a jeweler and dropped 11K on my wife’s ring. Five year plan and you got yourself a pew pew pew.

That was honestly the most disciplined I’ve ever been with physical cash and GD did i wanna buy a boat!!!!!!
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I have found, over the years who you know has much more bearing in relation to this type of thing. I also consider myself very lucky over the years.
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Took me 2 years to buy it but i shoved $200 out of every paycheck into an envelope in my safe. After 2 years i walked into a jeweler and dropped 11K on my wifeís ring. Five year plan and you got yourself a pew pew pew
I sold a rifle partially to pay for my wife's ring. But fortunately thanks to a friend in the business the 8k ring at Smyth cost me $2600 from another source. So it didn't take me as long to get it handled.

So I did legitimately bring this subject up with my skinny brunette wife boss last night. She's damned supportive of my hobbies, I have free reign to do as I want cause she knows I won't do anything irresponsible. But this would be a hell of a hill to climb to convince her based on her reaction. And she isn't wrong, that's more than enough to buy a nice family mobile or pay a giant piece of the mortgage or go somewhere for an experience (she's in to vacations, I am not).

So I guess beyond the mere monetary component there's the spousal buy in component.
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I sold a rifle partially to pay for my wife's ring. But fortunately thanks to a friend in the business the 8k ring at Smyth cost me $2600 from another source. So it didn't take me as long to get it handled.

So I did legitimately bring this subject up with my skinny brunette wife boss last night. She's damned supportive of my hobbies, I have free reign to do as I want cause she knows I won't do anything irresponsible. But this would be a hell of a hill to climb to convince her based on her reaction. And she isn't wrong, that's more than enough to buy a nice family mobile or pay a giant piece of the mortgage or go somewhere for an experience (she's in to vacations, I am not).

So I guess beyond the mere monetary component there's the spousal buy in component.
All true but a machine gun is as solid of an investment as one can get so be sure to push that too. There is a finite amount and every year there sadly becomes less and less due to outside factors. IMO from an investment stand point itís like a bond. Itíll only go up (for the most part)
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If she is open to logical, fact-based arguments (I know, she has an XX chromosome, so may not be possible), you can show real data for the increased value of machine guns as an investment. This site is fantastic.

http://machinegunpriceguide.com/html/price_guides.html
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She has said that when ammo gets back to normal we will be investing in that. She didn't believe me about its volatility then COVID happened.

Her old man taught her good money sense.
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All true but a machine gun is as solid of an investment as one can get so be sure to push that too. There is a finite amount and every year there sadly becomes less and less due to outside factors. IMO from an investment stand point itís like a bond. Itíll only go up (for the most part)
****I'd love to be party to listening in on the conversation with a spouse (perhaps not really into guns..) regarding spending, say $20-$30k of household money to buy a machine gun:

"For the home! a home machine gun! Yes, I know it SOUNDS crazy but LOTS of people are doing it now on MDS!!! Here honey, read this thread!" , and then proceed to show the value of an M-16 lower back in 1983 or so, mebbe some magazine articles from the day, and then!!!! show current values for machine guns, with mebbe a graph or two (or a pie chart if the wife likes pie..) of the dramatic increases in price, etc.. Also, mebbe show stock market returns, but mebbe pick dates like increases from 2008-2013 ish when the market tanked a bit (a lot) and then show how much better machine guns did during that time up to now...

I'm thinking after using those stats lots of spouses will be all over spending that kind of money on what will probably mostly be a safe queen, versus funding little Nellie's or Nelson's 529 plan or braces for the kids ("The kid's teeth aren't THAT crooked!!! Nelson can eat an apple through a chain link fence right now!!!")

I'm actually just kidding about all of the above, but I've seen the returns on various NFA "investments", and after running numbers - if something is affordable to you without your son looking like Bucky the Apple Chomper there's probably worse things you could spend your money on, but there are many many investments that over the same time horizon would do better, and provide things like dividends and tax advantages in perpetuity, and without the hassle of storage, theft, insurance, etc... that a Ma Deuce or Thompson, etc.. would have.
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She has said that when ammo gets back to normal we will be investing in that. She didn't believe me about its volatility then COVID happened.

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It was a good investment
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I may have been confused, but I thought the recent stimulus checks were so that all Americans could buy NFA items in 2021?
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I know it's been mentioned before, but don't forget to budget for ammo. No matter what caliber, they are ammo black holes.
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