Sig P365

alucard0822 · Jan 9, 2018

rascal said:
whoever did that cad put flush baseplate on the competition but extended baseplate on the P365? P365 will be shorter in grip, not longer, but whit same grip height for hand to grasp with that undercut

Also the scale might be off a bit, the Sig is shorter than most by around 1/2", shorter than the LC9 by .2, but shows identical length in the pic, same with the height, although even still if the profiles are the right shape, it should have the highest grip, and most room on the frontstrap despite being the smallest pistol out of the comparison with the greatest capacity. Judging by the few spots in videos where the pistol is pointing ahead, looks like the slide is lightly narrower, and tapers to the top, with the grip being the widest point besides the slide stop, would like to see caliper measurements on it, and see what part they are measuring the advertised 1" at. a slightly wider grip with more room, and factory extended and +2 mags should be awesome for folks with larger hands. If it lives up to the advertising they should sell like crazy.

Schipperke · Jan 9, 2018

snallygaster said:
I also love the DA/SA. Willing to give this a try though since I'll never find a P224. I hope the reset is as good as the SRT in the 226.

$549 +$28 shipping.. quick

AssMan · Jan 9, 2018

Schipperke said:
$549 +$28 shipping.. quick

Appreciate the lookin' out, but this one is DAK.

MDElite · Jan 9, 2018

Handled one today, felt a lot like the 224. Not bad with the extended mag.

Here are some lame pics I took

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fidelity · Jan 9, 2018

BBestPawn said:
Handled one today, felt a lot like the 224. Not bad with the extended mag.

Here are some lame pics I took ...

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"Lame" pics are still appreciated ... as is the first impression of course.

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rbird7282 · Jan 9, 2018

rascal said:
It is not subcompact (P320 is 40% larger in raw volume and 33% heavier), it is smaller than subcompact. P365 is smaller or equal to g43, Shield, XDs.

p365: L 5.8, H 4.3, W 1, 18oz, cap 10/12+1

p320 sc: L 6.7, H 4.7, W 1.1, 25oz, cap 10/12/more +1

Way smaller in every dimension and measure.

This gun, if it has no major problem, is a single stack striker market killer.

Well I have both the 320 and a G43 and other than width there is not a huge difference. Yes the 43 is narrower but not by a ton.
There's no way the handgrip on the new 365 is equal to or less than a 43

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AssMan · Jan 9, 2018

BBestPawn said:
Handled one today, felt a lot like the 224. Not bad with the extended mag.

Here are some lame pics I took

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Thanks for these. Did you finger it? How’s the trigger and reset? Anything close to a P224 with the SRT?

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protegeV · Jan 9, 2018

At first glance it looks extremely top heavy

SWO Daddy · Jan 9, 2018

rascal said:
It is not subcompact (P320 is 40% larger in raw volume and 33% heavier), it is smaller than subcompact. P365 is smaller or equal to g43, Shield, XDs.

p365: L 5.8, H 4.3, W 1, 18oz, cap 10/12+1
p320 sc: L 6.7, H 4.7, W 1.1, 25oz, cap 10/12/more +1

Way smaller in every dimension and measure.

This gun, if it has no major problem, is a single stack striker market killer.

Yep. If this thing works when it's supposed to and doesn't go bang when you drop it, SIG is going to sell a ton of them. I want one.

rascal · Jan 9, 2018

protegeV said:
At first glance it looks extremely top heavy

did you see the pics I posted from AR15? I think the glock 43 is likely more top heavy. and you will have ten rounds in that stack in the 365 in the middle. and your hand looks like will be closer up on the bore on the 365 than the glock43

protegeV · Jan 9, 2018

I'm a big fan of my shield but this does look like a possible game changer.

AssMan · Jan 9, 2018

protegeV said:
I'm a big fan of my shield but this does look like a possible game changer.

Those pics next to the G43 and Shield are pretty convincing. Smaller than the Glock but with 3 additional rounds? Sweet!

I’m wondering what the future holds for the new mag design?

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smokey · Jan 9, 2018

Fix the rail and go to a 3.75 or 4" barrel and I'm in. Another 50 fps and slightly longer sight radius would be cool.

Schipperke · Jan 9, 2018

Note the lack of funky trigger too.

MDElite · Jan 9, 2018

snallygaster said:
Thanks for these. Did you finger it? How’s the trigger and reset? Anything close to a P224 with the SRT?

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I'll check it out again tomorrow. I don't think the trigger was anything exceptional, but it's a $500 polymer gun. I'll check the reset tomorrow .

The thing I liked the least was the gap between the mag and frame. Just like the 224 just looks and felt weird to me . More pics tomorrow.

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rascal · Jan 10, 2018

y

smokey0118 said:
Fix the rail and go to a 3.75 or 4" barrel and I'm in. Another 50 fps and slightly longer sight radius would be cool.

Respectfully, they have that, it is called a 320 sub campact railed version

I like the rail on the 365, and think that is a great feature the way Sig did it. Probably 80% to 90% of the micro single stack market it is competing in doesn't have a rail. I believe it is proprietary or third party aftermarket non standard for the huge competitors like shield, g43, lc9.

This is more elegant solution. no added bulk and weight to front of frame. it much less potential for snag going in or out of holster compared to picatinny or weaver "standards." Think about it, spending all that engineering on smoothing and dehorning the surfaces and controls and then sticking a bunch of metal -- perpendicular to the holstering ad re-holstering movement?

The ancient rail systems are crazy on on a very small holsters gun. they potentially harm the vast majority of users who never use them on that size handgun with added weight, bulk and snag potential.

smokey · Jan 10, 2018

rascal said:
y

Respectfully, they have that, it is called a 320 sub campact railed version

I like the rail on the 365, and think that is a great feature the way Sig did it. Probably 80% to 90% of the micro single stack market it is competing in doesn't have a rail. I believe it is proprietary or third party aftermarket non standard for the huge competitors like shield, g43, lc9.

This is more elegant solution. no added bulk and weight to front of frame. it much less potential for snag going in or out of holster compared to picatinny or weaver "standards." Think about it, spending all that engineering on smoothing and dehorning the surfaces and controls and then sticking a bunch of metal -- perpendicular to the holstering ad re-holstering movement?

The ancient rail systems are crazy on on a very small holsters gun. they potentially harm the vast majority of users who never use them on that size handgun with added weight, bulk and snag potential.

This selling points of the 365 are largely its width and bore axis. The 320 sc you mentioned is 1.3" wide with a much higher bore axis. It's also a 3.5" barrel, which I'd still accept, but just prefer something in the 3.75 or 4" range. For the rail, We're now in a time where lights are getting both brighter and smaller. The olight mini, streamlight tlr3, and surefire xc1 are all evidence of this. Opening up the rail to the industry standard gives the user more flexibility in choosing a light, while not really giving anything up. a polymer rail isn't that big of a snagging or scratching deal.

rascal · Jan 10, 2018

smokey0118 said:
This selling points of the 365 are largely its width and bore axis. The 320 sc you mentioned is 1.3" wide with a much higher bore axis. It's also a 3.5" barrel, which I'd still accept, but just prefer something in the 3.75 or 4" range. For the rail, We're now in a time where lights are getting both brighter and smaller. The olight mini, streamlight tlr3, and surefire xc1 are all evidence of this. Opening up the rail to the industry standard gives the user more flexibility in choosing a light, while not really giving anything up. a polymer rail isn't that big of a snagging or scratching deal.

In the major brands you have to go up to 1.2 to 1.3 width to get a rail anyway. so you are comparing 1.3 guns with rails to S365? why?

We are now in a time when lights/lasers for micros are specialized and custom for the gun

none of the lights you mention fit on any 'standard" rail for the micro guns that constitute 90% of the market: Shield, LC9, G43.

The "standard" on micros is no rail.

And putting a standard rail on has a serious downside, it is a major snagging risk. Picatinny and Weaver are sharp cuts perpendicular to the gun.

As far as "bore axis" please it isn't a factor for the vast majority of gun buyers, it is just something glock says when they can't say anything else

AssMan · Jan 10, 2018

I agree that you're in the minority if you're wanting a pic rail on a micro - Sig's apparent solution looks like a solid compromise.

MDElite · Jan 10, 2018

It does not have a short reset.

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