HB1302-"The Neighborhood Bag Lady Can Take Your Guns" bill

Rack&Roll · Apr 6, 2018

44man said:
when will the final vote on this be?

We are trying to confirm that the RED FLAG bill will be taken up on the House floor this afternoon.

They can do this because they have banked a few “legislative days” and can call a “new legislative day” later today. It is not unheard of for them to cram 3 “legislative days” into one long day.

esqappellate · Apr 6, 2018

KJackson said:
How does someone pose an immediate and present danger by merely possessing a firearm? Maybe because since I bought a blinged-out rifle I can't afford food for my family this week?

The only time I have been injured by any of my guns was when I pinched the skin on the side of my hand in the slide. And that took more than just possessing it. It took my lack of manual dexterity.

Must be the whole "I am scared of someone having guns" type of injury.

Bingo. Petitioner says she is scared of X because of A or B or C. X possesses firearms. Court, sitting ex parte, issues an order that seizes X's firearms if there are "reasonable grounds to believe" that X is a danger and that he/she has firearms. That's all that is required. Petitioner gets full civil and criminal immunity for filing the petition. X gets screwed and must lawyer up.

fred55 · Apr 6, 2018

So the real "message" I'm hearing from the MGA is they do not want gun owners in Maryland. Or at the minimum only ones that don't exercise their First Amendment rights. Because if we do vocalize objections we risk getting a "complimentary" red flag...

swinokur · Apr 6, 2018

Or an arrest from the MCP brown shirts

Hawkeye · Apr 6, 2018

Rack&Roll said:
We are trying to confirm that the RED FLAG bill will be taken up on the House floor this afternoon.

They can do this because they have banked a few “legislative days” and can call a “new legislative day” later today. It is not unheard of for them to cram 3 “legislative days” into one long day.

I just dropped an email breakdown with talking points and a text message to my Rep.

Let us know if it's going to the House floor if you hear.

Rack&Roll · Apr 6, 2018

I think we need a March On Annapolis waving RED FLAGS.

fred55 · Apr 6, 2018

swinokur said:
Or an arrest from the MCP brown shirts

I'm just talking about disagreeing about anything with anyone else in Maryland...

swinokur · Apr 6, 2018

Rack&Roll said:
I think we need a March On Annapolis waving RED FLAGS.

Da Comrade Rack

Bob A · Apr 6, 2018

Personally I'm terrified by the words and actions of Mike Miller. I know he has lots of guns, and a megalomaniacal personality. He's a danger to me and many of my associates.

iH8DemLibz · Apr 6, 2018

The communist MGA members need to be given red flags so they can wave them.

danb · Apr 6, 2018

Bob A said:
Personally I'm terrified by the words and actions of Mike Miller. I know he has lots of guns, and a megalomaniacal personality. He's a danger to me and many of my associates.

Good news! he already screwed you in the last year so you have standing to file an order.

Jim12 · Apr 6, 2018

Rack&Roll said:
He erroneously believes the RED FLAG bill was “fixed” in Senate Judicial Proceedings.

We understand the political pressure because in chats with almost every Senator and Delegate on the Bricks they raised the issue of how well the RED FLAG bill “concept” polls in so many zip codes.

The DemocRats count on the voters not paying attention.

The Democrats didn't let a crisis go to waste.

Part of the reason people aren't paying attention is also that the devil is in the details. And they soft-peddled their marketing, in terms of helping people get the "help" they need before they hurt themselves or others.

"I'm from the government and I'm here to help you." -- Dangerous words.

They're demonizing mere ownership of firearms, and then arming those who revile either the 2nd Amendment or any gun owner with a potent weapon to destroy the latter's future.

Our elected representatives ought to be smarter, wiser, and more respectful than that. If they aren't (and it looks as though they aren't), they have no place in positions of public trust or authority.

Jim12 · Apr 6, 2018

Rack&Roll said:
I think we need a March On Annapolis waving RED FLAGS.

The General Assembly will hand out complimentary hammers & sickles, and yellow stars.

Rack&Roll · Apr 6, 2018

Hawkeye said:
I just dropped an email breakdown with talking points and a text message to my Rep.

Excellent quick response to compliment what we are doing down here.

We had a sign event in front of both Delegates and Senators this morning.

I can tell you that one Senator changed his vote from YES to NO after I suggested this morning the growing possibility that our combined messaging could give Gov. Hogan talking points for a veto of this unlawful proposal.

As part of preserving our access, I cannot disclose who this Senator is, but we are impressed that this Senator did this.

Let us know if it's going to the House floor if you hear.

You got it.

Rack&Roll · Apr 6, 2018

iH8DemLibz said:
Where it be at now?

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Who do we contact now? House members? Senate members? Cuzz I'm gettin' a veto twinge.

Contact any and all House Delegates and ask them how they can vote for a law that is itself unlawful!

Use Mark Pennak’s excellent write-up to fashion your own message:

esqappellate said:
Thanks for the link. The Senate JPR Committee makes it less onerous, but it still makes gun owners a unique class in the law, e.g., a person who can be proceeded against and whose property can be seized simply because of his status as a gun owner.

5–602.
(A) (1) A PETITION FOR AN EXTREME RISK PROTECTIVE ORDER SHALL:
(* * *
(II) INCLUDE ANY INFORMATION KNOWN TO THE PETITIONER THAT THE RESPONDENT POSES AN IMMEDIATE AND PRESENT DANGER OF CAUSING PERSONAL INJURY TO THE RESPONDENT, THE PETITIONER, OR ANOTHER BY POSSESSING A FIREARM;

A person who is dangerous or who "POSES AN IMMEDIATE AND PRESENT DANGER" but who does NOT possess guns is NOT covered by this bill. So gun owners are the new "suspect class" in the law, except that they are a targeted class rather than a class protected under the 14th Amendment. I know of no other circumstance in which the exercise of a constitutional right serves a basis for singling out that class of persons for special, discriminatory treatment under the law. What's next, legislation that provides that a "Scarlet G" shall be branded on the forehead of every gun owner? Let the harassment and debasement begin. Gun owners will now go underground and be silent about possessing firearms for fear of being subjected to this harassment. And I can't blame them. It is just one more step in de-legitimatizing gun ownership. I can't believe that the NRA is OK (neutral) with this concept. I am totally disgusted. And yes, the odds are good that Gov. Hogan will sign this abomination, if it passes the House and the Senate.

Bikebreath · Apr 6, 2018

Rack&Roll said:
Contact any and all House Delegates and ask them how they can vote for a law that is itself unlawful!

Use Mark Pennak’s excellent write-up to fashion your own message:

YES!

j_h_smith · Apr 6, 2018

My representatives have promised me they would vote no, even Kathy Szeliga. I have this is email format. I was promised. Now lets see how they deliver.

District 7.

Jim12 · Apr 6, 2018

Soo... should this woman's guns be taken away?

Given her position, she might some day actually be on an elevator with President Trump, Mike Pence, or Jeff Sessions.

Bikebreath · Apr 6, 2018

j_h_smith said:
My representatives have promised me they would vote no, even Kathy Szeliga. I have this is email format. I was promised. Now lets see how they deliver.

District 7.

HA! I’m in Baltimore City and rarely get reply, but when I do it’s sh*t.

BeoBill · Apr 6, 2018

Bikebreath said:
HA! I’m in Baltimore City and rarely get reply, but when I do it’s sh*t.

I'm in South Bowie. The only responses I ever get are politely worded FOAD emails. I have yet to agree with the D toadies that run unopposed here cycle after cycle.

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