Ar 15 lower

Krucianking · Jul 7, 2019

Can I buy this have it shipped to a local ffl PSA AR-15 COMPLETE LOWER - MAGPUL CTR EDITION - BLACK, NO MAGAZINE - 49177
Black Magpul CTR AR 15 complete lower receiver and then have any upper I chose shipped directly to my home? The lower is from palmetto arms.

dontpanic · Jul 7, 2019

Yes you can. Or you can go to your FFL and see what they have in stock.
You will have to fill out a 77R and wait 7 days to take possession.
Any part, other than the lower can be shipped directly to you.

357Max · Jul 7, 2019

Part 1 Yes.
Part 2 No................Since this lower comes with a rifle stock installed you cannot put a pistol upper on this unless you first change the stock to a brace (kind of defeats the purpose of buying with stock) or you've already acquired an SBR tax stamp! The upper you select for this must be MD compliant assuming you live in this state? Upper must have 16" barrel or pinned and welded 14.5" plus muzzle device = 16"+ total length. Barrel must be advertised as H-Bar or Heavy target unless it's not 5.56. I believe alternate calibers such as 300 BO, 6.8SPC, 6.5 grendel etc are not required to be H-Bar.

babalou · Jul 7, 2019

357Max is correct. The reason for the pistol stamp comment is due to the stock on the lower. That is used for an SBR, thus needing a stamp. What most people due for a short barrel is to replace the stock with a brace, put a pistol upper on it, pew pew until your stamp comes back, then replace the brace with the original stock for the SBR configuration.

there is no HBAR requirement for calibers others than .223/5.56 barrels.

clandestine · Jul 7, 2019

Stock on a lower does not make it a rifle.

357Max · Jul 7, 2019

I may be wrong on this assumption, but wouldn't the FFL that does the transfer have to record it as a rifle if it comes with a rifle stock on it? If so, it could never be legally be reconfigured as a pistol correct?
This would be good to know for future ref.

I've only bought stripped lowers and made sure they were not recorded as a rifle so I'd have the option.

OP might be better off buying it without the stock.

clandestine · Jul 7, 2019

357Max said:
I may be wrong on this assumption, but wouldn't the FFL that does the transfer have to record it as a rifle if it comes with a rifle stock on it? If so, it could never be legally be reconfigured as a pistol correct?
This would be good to know for future ref.

I've only bought stripped lowers and made sure they were not recorded as a rifle so I'd have the option.

OP might be better off buying it without the stock.

It's still an other on the 4473. It's not a rifle until it's made into a rifle.

If you buy a complete lower with a stock you can pull the stock, put on a SBA3 and put a pistol upper on it.

357Max · Jul 7, 2019

clandestine said:
It's still an other on the 4473. It's not a rifle until it's made into a rifle.

If you buy a complete lower with a stock you can pull the stock, put on a SBA3 and put a pistol upper on it.

Good info!

I will edit post #3

Thanks Chad

babalou · Jul 7, 2019

Your post 3 edit will make my additions to your number three original post moot.

clandestine · Jul 7, 2019

You guys had the right idea. No harm at all

357Max · Jul 7, 2019

babalou said:
Your post 3 edit will make my additions to your number three original post moot.

A lot of people don't read all the way to the end so I hate to leave a post out there with bad info. I was apparently miss informed that a lower with a stock could not be registered as other.

Since we don't know OP intentions for his build or his level of MGA convoluted gun law knowledge. The more clarity the better. Your additions are completely valid and applicable if the intent was to build an SBR.

OP really highlights how easy it would be for someone new to gun building to inadvertently become a felon.

Glad he joined the forum and asked the question.

mvee · Jul 7, 2019

I was thinking of buying a lower from palmetto a while ago. I believe that Palmetto won’t accept an order for a lower from a resident of Maryland. The do however accept orders from dealers in Maryland. So if you really want a certain PSA lower you’ll have to get a dealer to order it for you.

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