"Temple Index" -- Is this actually a thing?
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There's reasons this technique has survived for so long and niches where it works well. It's my go to position because I'm the second tallest one in my family and unless my older brother tilts his head over my barrel my muzzle won't cover anyone I care about. As always context is king and proper training is necessary.
Alan3413
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I like the dude. Thanks for introducing me to his channel.
The part where he tilts the pistol toward the other guy's head made me cringe.
Biggfoot44
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In the Nothing is truely New department.
For a particular generation of us , this was well known as the Charlie's Angels Position, aka the Sabrina Position .
For a particular generation of us , this was well known as the Charlie's Angels Position, aka the Sabrina Position .
This has survived where? What classes can you recommend who teach this? Thanks.
My first SWAT school back in 94 or so they taught this. It was awful. Never in any training since has this ever been mentioned as an option or taught as a primary carry.
Reminds me of this from the FBI.
Right. LOL Nothing like lowering your grape to around center mass.
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Note to self: Stop high-gunning my darringer.
hogarth
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- Jun 13, 2009
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Will Petty utilizes/teaches it in his Vehicle CQB classes. Others adopted it accordingly, but only for very specific circumstances working around people and vehicles. He's overall well regarded, and you can find videos of portions of his classes on YouTube.
FWIW, when I did Pannone's Street and Vehicle class a few years ago, without naming Petty by name (most of us knew who he was referring to), he completely mocked the technique.
Well, I was asking mopar which of the classes he's attended taught it. We all know you attend many classes and can vouch for or criticize certain techniques.
hogarth
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- Jun 13, 2009
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My bad. I took your question as a generic one when you asked who teaches this.
On a side note, when I said that Pannone mocked the temple index, he didn't do so in a pure mock. Instead, he, in typical fashion, outlined the many reasons why the technique is subpar.
Reminds me of this from the FBI.
It looks like they're all dropping a synchronized deuce.
Biggfoot44
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We're laughing now, but the pic shows FBI doctrine ( further spread to State and Local PD's through the FBI NA ) from the 1930s until 1970s .
Dogabutila
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- Dec 21, 2010
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Very context dependent. It's a thing for PSD.
MikeTF
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I enjoyed his humor, so I started watching more of his videos meow:
Gizmo98
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Has this fallen out of favor?
I learned it years ago, and I tend to use it during training as my default low ready. The biggest complaint I've heard about it is that it tends to make people tense up. I've compensated for that by not bringing it all the way into my chest and assuming the hunched position I normally see people use with this. The way I hold the gun, it looks kind of like the unarmed ready position I see police use with their hands slightly touching near the solar plexus. I think I've heard it called the interview position.
If this is something that has been found to be less than optimal, what do you suggest as an alternative? I'm always looking to improve.
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