ACLU files suit in Oregon over "no fly no buy" proposal

danb · Dec 16, 2015

Saw this on TTAG. ACLU:

https://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-fre...it-shouldnt-be-used-restrict-peoples-freedoms

As we will argue to a federal district court in Oregon this Wednesday, the standards for inclusion on the No Fly List are unconstitutionally vague, and innocent people are blacklisted without a fair process to correct government error. Our lawsuit seeks a meaningful opportunity for our clients to challenge their placement on the No Fly List because it is so error-prone and the consequences for their lives have been devastating.

wait, whaaaaat? the NRA, SAF and the ACLU on the same side? If this is not real, the drugs my wife slipped me are really good.

HeatSeeker · Dec 16, 2015

Maybe the ACLU is trying to show that they are sometimes capable of rational thinking. :shrug:

PJDiesel · Dec 16, 2015

I'd like to see the ACLU (and NRA / SAF) team up in MD and actually spend some money on our rights being denied.....

Hit and Run · Dec 16, 2015

It is a 14th Amendment issue

Brooklyn · Dec 16, 2015

Its happened before. It may happen again.

DC-W · Dec 16, 2015

Brooklyn said:
Its happened before. It may happen again.

The NRA and ACLU have teamed up before in regards to the NSA's bulk data collection, IIRC.

press1280 · Dec 16, 2015

Some ACLU state chapters are coming around (finally) and treating the 2A as a civil right.

Brooklyn · Dec 17, 2015

press1280 said:
Some ACLU state chapters are coming around (finally) and treating the 2A as a civil right.

In some states they will lose membership over it.

I told every aclu rep I ever spoke with..my wallet is closed to them based on this one issue alone.

nedsurf · Dec 17, 2015

Brooklyn said:
In some states they will lose membership over it.

I told every aclu rep I ever spoke eith..my wallet is closed to them based on this one issue alone.

I took the exact same stance and when given the opportunity am very vocal about it to their people. One cannot pick and choose among the bill of rights to protect from being violated.

porscheguy · Dec 18, 2015

It could be a matter of a broken clock being right twice a day. Or maybe they could be coming around. I wouldn't be eager to trust them just yet. I'd take a wait and see approach.

Brooklyn · Dec 18, 2015

porscheguy said:
It could be a matter of a broken clock being right twice a day. Or maybe they could be coming around. I wouldn't be eager to trust them just yet. I'd take a wait and see approach.

Whats trust got to do with it?

We're not partners..they do their thing we do ours.

But...it great to tell the libs they f..ked up so bad even the aclu oposes them...

Never miss a chance to kick a liberal..

WeaponsCollector · Dec 18, 2015

When the Heller decision came out in favor of gun rights, the ACLU came out against the Heller decision.
They were flooded by angry messages from people like me who cancelled their ACLU memberships.
It might be possible that they learned something from that, at least I hope they did.
I clearly remember they had a blog on their web site about how they disagree with the Heller decision and maybe 95% of the hundreds of messages on the blog were pro 2nd amendment and against the ACLU with people saying they will never give another dime to them and that they need to protect the whole Bill Of Rights instead of picking and choosing.

daNattyFatty · Dec 18, 2015

WeaponsCollector said:
When the Heller decision came out in favor of gun rights, the ACLU came out against the Heller decision.
They were flooded by angry messages from people like me who cancelled their ACLU memberships.
It might be possible that they learned something from that, at least I hope they did.
I clearly remember they had a blog on their web site about how they disagree with the Heller decision and maybe 95% of the hundreds of messages on the blog were pro 2nd amendment and against the ACLU with people saying they will never give another dime to them and that they need to protect the whole Bill Of Rights instead of picking and choosing.

Doubtful. Heller was how long ago now? And what has the ACLU done for the 2A community lately?

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