Illinois House passes shall-issue bill, 85-30

press1280 · May 24, 2013

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...n-emanuel-objections-20130524,0,2292796.story

It's on to the senate. What I'm gathering is that this is a done deal. The Senate will pass the bill, also with a veto-proof majority.
IL will have shall-issue, albeit a pretty strict version with high fees, 16 hour training, and a lot of no carry zones, the biggest of which is a ban on carry on mass transit.
It will however have full state preemption and will knock out the AWB in Cook/Chicago.

sajidakh · May 24, 2013

who woulda thought. chicago before baltimore. watch dc became shall issue before us. but by then everyones favorite handgun will be the 3011, shooting .45 cal lasers

PapiBarcelona · May 24, 2013

It's a good start.

Mr H · May 24, 2013

This would be huge... and ironic as anything....

Reciprocity will be interesting, too.

press1280 · May 24, 2013

mr h said:
This would be huge... and ironic as anything....

Reciprocity will be interesting, too.

I don't think there's any. I read through the bill and thought I saw a section that allowed for vehicle carry with out of state permits. I'll have to check again though.
300$ plus 16 hours training gets you an IL permit for 5 years.

Mr H · May 24, 2013

OK... haven't read it yet... but will look at it tonight for sure

Was speaking more about future wrangling over reciprocity

aray · May 24, 2013

They're not going to have time to dork with it a lot, if the Senate or the Governor wants changes. Did you catch that reference to "$100 billion pension debt with only a week left in the spring session"? That's Billion with a "b".

They've got some big fish to fry, and their own legislative calendar is working against them not to mention the federal court deadline to pass a carry law.

rob-cubed · May 24, 2013

Good news, and surprising. If Illinois can push back against gun-grabbing Chicago, especially in the post-Newtown fallout, that's a good sign.

fightinbluhen51 · May 24, 2013

^ yes...but I'd have preferred that they had thumbed their noses and taken it to SCOTUS. Guess we will be the ones at the big court in the fall.

Look out.

aray · May 24, 2013

This can still go to the SCOTUS. I think it would be dumb to do so, but the Senate can still reject the bill, the gov can veto it, and/or the AG can appeal to the SCOTUS. I think most realize that is probably not a good plan for them, but their arrogance may trump their common sense.

randian · May 24, 2013

press1280 said:
300$ plus 16 hours training gets you an IL permit for 5 years.

The training requirement is stupidly stiff, as is the $150 in-state fee, but likely unassailable legally. If New York's fees aren't sufficiently repugnant, these won't be either.

The $300 fee for nonresidents can be challenged as an equal protection violation, and I'd bet the state would lose that challenge.

Does the training have to be done in-state too? They don't seem to want nonresidents to actually apply.

Do you have to redo the training on renewals? These permits are expensive enough as it is.

Some of the no-carry zones are odd. Zoos? Those are real warzones. Parks all across Illinois must be bullet-strewn wastelands. Keeping carry off of Chicago's public transit systems is a total anti-black measure.

zoostation · May 24, 2013

press1280 said:
albeit a pretty strict version with high fees, 16 hour training, and a lot of no carry zones, the biggest of which is a ban on carry on mass transit.

There's that ever-present condescending liberal view on the poor.

ShoreShooter · May 24, 2013

Illinois.

Illinois?

Illinois can do this and MD cannot?

Mr H · May 24, 2013

ShoreShooter said:
Illinois.

Illinois?

Illinois can do this and MD cannot?

Hey... We'll take it where we can!

243hunter · May 24, 2013

randian said:
Do you have to redo the training on renewals? These permits are expensive enough as it is.

.

The renewal training requirement is 3 hours.

Verbotene · May 24, 2013

This is huge.

Just heard and this made my night.

DC-W · May 24, 2013

ShoreShooter said:
Illinois.

Illinois?

Illinois can do this and MD cannot?

Illinois' law was found unconstitutional. They were forced to allow carry by courts. Our day will come.

Sent from my hacked mobile device of destiny.

MDFF2008 · May 24, 2013

UGH, the public transit one is sickening. Someone really needs to come out and point out how these policies destroy the poor.

PJDiesel · May 24, 2013

kiriyama9000 said:
Illinois' law was found unconstitutional. They were forced to allow carry by courts.

And Maryland's isn't?

ShallNotInfringe · May 24, 2013

Yes!!!!!!!!

Can't wait for Smigiel and McDermott speeches next January on this!

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