ATF fabricates reason for rule change.

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  • Sgt. Psycho

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    https://www.ammoland.com/2022/01/at...-rule/?ct=t(RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN)#axzz7HgOVq1Sh

    Read more: https://www.ammoland.com/2022/01/at...icating-bs-reason-new-gun-rule/#ixzz7HojzyNBA

    SPRINGFIELD, VA –-(Ammoland.com)- According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF), the new proposed rule on unfinished frames and receivers was developed due to “numerous requests from licensees seeking clarity on how [Privately Manufactured Firearms] may be accepted and recorded.” But a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request by Gun Owners of America (GOA) shows that reasoning to be false.

    The ATF claimed that numerous federal firearms Licensees (FFL) contacted the Bureau and asked how to handle privately manufactured firearms (PMF) they take into inventory. The word numerous can mean many different things to different people. Some might consider numerous to be three or more. To others, it starts at a much bigger number such as 300. What can be agreed on by most logically honest people is that the number must be greater than one.

    The Merriam-Webster Dictionary defines numerous as: “consisting of great numbers of units or individuals.”

    GOA wanted to see what the ATF considered “numerous requests,” so the gun-rights group filed a FOIA request with the government agency. The ATF answered the request by providing the requested documents to GOA’s lawyers.
    The Numerous Requests Equaled a Giant Total of One (1) Request!

    The response shows that the ATF received one request from one FFL sent to one Industry Operations Inspectors (IOI), about one PMF (privately manufactured firearm) in August of 2020. The ATF could not produce any other request from FFLs about PMFs!?

    This discrepancy leads to many questions. If there were “numerous requests,” then why didn’t the FOIA response contain them. The ATF either lied on the reasoning for the proposed rule change, or the ATF violated the law by not turning over all the documents that the agency legally must give to those that request them. The other possibility is that the ATF considers “numerous requests” to be one request. A distinct possibility considering past ATF decision-making, but that answer seems unlikely.

    Most people do not believe that this letter inspired change. Most think that the ATF used the reasoning as an excuse to execute President Joe Biden’s gun control plan that has stalled in Congress.

    If the ATF is to be believed, then the agency is changing a regulation that has been in place since 1968 over a single request from a single FFL asking about one firearm.

    In April of 2021, the former Vice President issued an executive action instructing the ATF to look at regulations surrounding unfinished firearms and frames. President Biden gave the Bureau 30 days to unveil its plans for new proposed rules for what he calls “ghost guns.” The President also gave the Bureau 60 days to develop new proposed regulations surrounding pistol braces.

    The ATF is using Chevron deference to change the rules and the definition of a firearm to include unfinished frames and receivers. The ATF listed the proposed rule on the Federal Register for public comment. The ATF read and cataloged the public comments. Just under 300,000 comments were received, with most opposing the rule change.

    The regulations don’t appear to be imminent. The ATF started reaching out to FFLs and gunsmiths to gauge the impact on their business and figure out how long it would take to serialize all 80% kits in stock.
    As for the so-called “numerous” requests, that number one more time was….ONE!
     

    Inigoes

    Head'n for the hills
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    Dec 21, 2008
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    The BATFE rule change is in line with their bumpstock rule being a machine gun.

    1 trigger pull operation = machine gun.
     

    randomuser

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    Pathetic. How embarrassing it must be to work there.

    The ATF agent assigned and getting paid to read this thread just spit his coffee on the monitor.you paid for.

    He laughs at this word embarrassment you speak on while he reads this very thread while sitting in an office you paid for, all while collecting his check.

    I'm embarrassed.


    Wonder??????? Did he buy a second home to put on Airbnb or did he get that bass boat that he wanted this year with all of the overtime?
     

    cantstop

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    Aug 10, 2012
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    The ATF agent assigned and getting paid to read this thread just spit his coffee on the monitor.you paid for...

    Nah. The BATFE couldn't care less about this thread or any others here on MDS. They are a puppet agency that will accommodate the wishes of any party willing to give them more power and authority over the U.S. population.

    The BATFE treats the Constitution like a guidebook that needs to be challenged at every opportunity. They understand that their rules can be validated by just directing any challenges to the proper court and judge.
     

    Alea Jacta Est

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    The courts are supposed to afford clarity and purpose for the citizens. The courts were never conceived, designed or created to foster leverage for tyrannical bureaucrats to routinely and expensively Jack citizens around.

    But there you have it. There’s no power in “YES.” Zero. Zip. Nada.

    PS. The three part system of government only works when folks are honorable and God fearing. Legislative, judicial and executive. Turns out human nature is base. Lying, cheating and stealing are apparently ok if you’re elected to office OR those elected (or appointed) to office are beholden to you.
     

    JohnnyE

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    Jan 18, 2013
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    MoCo
    One of the most important things a person in power and authority can do is implement a policy that they personally oppose but is supported by the facts. The last time I saw this in action was during the Regan administration by Surgeon General C. Everett Koop.

    Regan and Koop were abortion opponents, and when Koop was tasked with reporting that abortion is psychologically harmful to women, everyone expected Koop to find it is real and is a problem, and that such a report would be useful in overturning Roe v. Wade. Everyone was shocked when Koop instead reported that it is not a real problem, running counter to expectations of the conservative world, and even going against his own prolife goals. Like the result or not, from a process standpoint at least he did not let political pressure and personal desire interfere with the conclusions that were supported by the data.
     

    babalou

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    Aug 12, 2013
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    yup

    The courts are supposed to afford clarity and purpose for the citizens. The courts were never conceived, designed or created to foster leverage for tyrannical bureaucrats to routinely and expensively Jack citizens around.

    But there you have it. There’s no power in “YES.” Zero. Zip. Nada.

    PS. The three part system of government only works when folks are honorable and God fearing. Legislative, judicial and executive. Turns out human nature is base. Lying, cheating and stealing are apparently ok if you’re elected to office OR those elected (or appointed) to office are beholden to you.

    100% :thumbsup:
     

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