World Champion shoots himself. Dies.

Aamdskeetshooter · Jan 8, 2022

I’m not a hunter but I’ve shot for 35+ years (mostly Skeet) but I’m trying to understand how a loaded shotgun gets pointed at one’s stomach.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mo...-trip/ar-AASxVIX?ocid=winp1taskbar&li=BBnbfcL

traveller · Jan 8, 2022

Aamdskeetshooter said:
I’m not a hunter but I’ve shot for 35+ years (mostly Skeet) but I’m trying to understand how a loaded shotgun gets pointed at one’s stomach.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mo...-trip/ar-AASxVIX?ocid=winp1taskbar&li=BBnbfcL

A couple of ways . One that comes to mind is by carrying the shotty with a sling over your shoulder. Bend down to pick up a shell. Gun slides off shoulder and pivots around sling until the butt hits the ground with the barrel pointed at you.
I did my hunter education in the plains. It focused on the 10 different ways how you can blow your head off while pheasant hunting. Climbing a fence with a loaded shotty over your shoulder is one of those ways, kneeling dow to pat the dog with a shotgun over your shoulder is another.

Occam · Jan 8, 2022

Once you drop/bobble a gun, anything's possible in terms of muzzle orientation. But what gets me is: never mind where it was pointed ... it went off! Reached for it as it slid/fell, and got a finger in the trigger guard? If it was being carried hot on a hike, why no safety on? Great grandpa's gun with an utterly unsafe action?

Point is: there had to more than one thing going on, here.

Will also add: being a skeet shooting rock star doesn't necessarily translate to field smarts.

Rich1911 · Jan 8, 2022

The "gun" accidentally fired a shot while he was bending down picking up empty shells.. the guns fault it looks like..

Aamdskeetshooter · Jan 8, 2022

traveller said:
A couple of ways . One that comes to mind is by carrying the shotty with a sling over your shoulder. Bend down to pick up a shell. Gun slides off shoulder and pivots around sling until the butt hits the ground with the barrel pointed at you.
I did my hunter education in the plains. It focused on the 10 different ways how you can blow your head off while pheasant hunting. Climbing a fence with a loaded shotty over your shoulder is one of those ways, kneeling dow to pat the dog with a shotgun over your shoulder is another.

Rarely see any slings on the skeet field.

And when we do see them we know to monitor/assist the shooter. We usually recommend they remove it as it causes more problems than it solves.

I did take hunter safety eons ago and they advised that when climbing a fence the gun should be unloaded. I guess that’s not the norm.

Aamdskeetshooter · Jan 8, 2022

Occam said:
Once you drop/bobble a gun, anything's possible in terms of muzzle orientation. But what gets me is: never mind where it was pointed ... it went off! Reached for it as it slid/fell, and got a finger in the trigger guard? If it was being carried hot on a hike, why no safety on? Great grandpa's gun with an utterly unsafe action?

Point is: there had to more than one thing going on, here.

Will also add: being a skeet shooting rock star doesn't necessarily translate to field smarts.

I always say that multiple rules of firearm safety have to be broken for a tragedy like this to happen.

DanGuy48 · Jan 8, 2022

Occam said:
Once you drop/bobble a gun, anything's possible in terms of muzzle orientation. But what gets me is: never mind where it was pointed ... it went off! Reached for it as it slid/fell, and got a finger in the trigger guard? If it was being carried hot on a hike, why no safety on? Great grandpa's gun with an utterly unsafe action?

Point is: there had to more than one thing going on, here.

Will also add: being a skeet shooting rock star doesn't necessarily translate to field smarts.

Truth, there always is. An accumulation of small things that ultimately ends in the unintended.

John from MD · Jan 8, 2022

I dunno. My detective side says that there is more to the story. A 19 year old Type A, with probably young friends, a lot more could be going on.

Bikebreath · Jan 8, 2022

It never said what type of gun. Just because he's a champion skeet shooter doesn't mean he couldn't have been carry a handgun.

Melnic · Jan 8, 2022

Aamdskeetshooter said:
I always say that multiple rules of firearm safety have to be broken for a tragedy like this to happen.

EXACTLY! And that is true about nearly all tragedies/catastrophes.

Kman · Jan 8, 2022

Italians...lupara?

John from MD · Jan 8, 2022

I doubt that they were wolf hunting. I don't think they have as many as they used to back in the day.

rbird7282 · Jan 8, 2022

Nothing but a liberal hit piece article on guns. Starts talking about how accidental shootings are one of the leading causes of deaths in the U.S. which of course has nothing to do with this kid.

D.77f150 · Jan 8, 2022

Pretty wild, really curious how though.

Uncle Duke · Jan 8, 2022

Countless possibilities. If hunting, maybe cleared a fence, then retreived the firearm pulled muzzle first is a first guess. Whatever he did, he wound up on the business end of a muzzle.

No surprise though. Some of the very worst of gun handling involves folks who should (and do) know better.

308Scout · Jan 8, 2022

rbird7282 said:
Nothing but a liberal hit piece article on guns. Starts talking about how accidental shootings are one of the leading causes of deaths in the U.S. which of course has nothing to do with this kid.

Yep, this.

dontpanic · Jan 8, 2022

Thst's really sad.

AlBeight · Jan 8, 2022

rbird7282 said:
Nothing but a liberal hit piece article on guns. Starts talking about how accidental shootings are one of the leading causes of deaths in the U.S. which of course has nothing to do with this kid.

Yeah, just another shit Newsweek story. One paragraph about the young man and the rest of the article describing as many accidental shootings as possible before the page space ran out. Especially stupid because the article was supposed to be about and Italian kid that died tragically in Italy, then the author nitpicks American firearms incidents like the two were somehow related. Typical leftist shit “journalism”.

Threeband · Jan 8, 2022

rbird7282 said:
Nothing but a liberal hit piece article on guns. Starts talking about how accidental shootings are one of the leading causes of deaths in the U.S. which of course has nothing to do with this kid.

... Which of course is a bald-faced lie.

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