Finally, Ruger 10mm GP100

jimbobborg · Apr 28, 2018

Yesssss!!!

https://ruger.com/products/gp100MatchChampion/specSheets/1775.html

TheOriginalMexicanBob · Apr 28, 2018

Dayum! That could convince me to buy a Ruger!

danb · Apr 28, 2018

Holy chit!

lazarus · Apr 28, 2018

But does it take glock mags?

IronEye · Apr 28, 2018

Very interesting. Here's some initial thoughts.

A .40 bullet is certainly larger in diameter than a .357, a 357 magnum will push the same weight bullet at the essentially the same velocity as the 10mm in the same length barrel.
10mm will undoubtedly handle a heavier bullet. 200 or 220gr is possible. For defense against big bitey creatures that is a decided deep penetration advantage.
All in all, on the high end, the 357 and 10mm are pretty close.
On the downside 10mm ammo is just plain silly expensive.
Where the 10mm loses to the 357, in my opinion, is in versatility. It does not have the option of shooting cheaper factory 357 ammo and target 38's are also out of the question.

If you reload for 10mm - or are looking for a gun that is moon clip ready - or are carrying in the woods with big bears - or just want something different - then, yes, Dayum. Lots of good reasons why you need this gun.

Ruger is listening to its customers.

TheOriginalMexicanBob · Apr 28, 2018

At least Ruger is listening to its customers rather than putting out "gun of the week" or "gun of the month" and telling the consumer they need to buy it. It's called recognizing a market and servicing it.

Exuberon · Apr 28, 2018

Interesting option, however IMHO the Ruger frame is too bulky when compared against a S&W model 19 “k” frame revolver.

With my S&W....I will stay!

knastera · Apr 28, 2018

Can you safely shoot a 40 S&W out of a 10mm revolver in the same way you can safely shoot 38 Special from a 357 Magnum revolver?

Rack&Roll · Apr 28, 2018

knastera said:
Can you safely shoot a 40 S&W out of a 10mm revolver in the same way you can safely shoot 38 Special from a 357 Magnum revolver?

I’d worry about cracking the forcing cone...but that’s just me.

knastera · Apr 28, 2018

Rack&Roll said:
I’d worry about cracking the forcing cone...but that’s just me.

I can understand that. I just wonder why that would be an issue with 40 S&W/10mm but not with 38 Special/357 Magnum.

Rack&Roll · Apr 28, 2018

Here’s a discussion:

http://www.carolinashootersclub.com...in-a-revolver-chambered-for-10mm-auto.251577/

And pictures below. Case length issue? Less difference for .38 sp vs .357?

danb · Apr 28, 2018

IronEye said:
On the downside 10mm ammo is just plain silly expensive.
Where the 10mm loses to the 357, in my opinion, is in versatility. It does not have the option of shooting cheaper factory 357 ammo and target 38's are also out of the question.

If you reload for 10mm - or are looking for a gun that is moon clip ready - or are carrying in the woods with big bears - or just want something different - then, yes, Dayum. Lots of good reasons why you need this gun.

Ruger is listening to its customers.

Not really true anymore. My last order or 10mm and 38 spc, 10 boxes of each was about the same price.

rj1974 · Apr 28, 2018

But it's a .40long :innocent0

Doitsouthstyle · Apr 28, 2018

I like the idea a lot hope it takes off and they come out with a few variations. I think a 6” blued would have me waiting on the handgun roster board to make there move.

IronEye · Apr 29, 2018

knastera said:
Can you safely shoot a 40 S&W out of a 10mm revolver in the same way you can safely shoot 38 Special from a 357 Magnum revolver?

That's an interesting question. Note that this gun uses moon clips. Without the moon clip i would think the 40 would slide forward in the cylinder.

Some (not me) shoot 40 S&W through unaltered 10mm handguns. In that case they rely on the extractor to hold the primer next to the breech face.

IronEye · Apr 29, 2018

danb said:
Not really true anymore. My last order or 10mm and 38 spc, 10 boxes of each was about the same price.

I stand corrected.
I had not seen brass cased S&B 10mm was available for about 30 cents a round.

smokey · Apr 29, 2018

Rack&Roll said:
I’d worry about cracking the forcing cone...but that’s just me.

The s&w 610 could hop back and forth between 40 and 1cm, not sure why it'd be an issue for this?

IronEye · Apr 29, 2018

Rack&Roll said:
I’d worry about cracking the forcing cone...but that’s just me.

Somewhat off topic, there have been some reports about the GP100 in 44 Special suffering from cracked forcing cones. Is that because the GP100 forcing cone is too thin on these models or because the owner was shooting hot 44 Specials?
10mm is lots hotter than any sane 44 Special load.
A 10mm barrel does have more meat in the forcing cone than a 44 Special.

jimbobborg · Apr 29, 2018

IronEye said:
Very interesting. Here's some initial thoughts.

A .40 bullet is certainly larger in diameter than a .357, a 357 magnum will push the same weight bullet at the essentially the same velocity as the 10mm in the same length barrel.
10mm will undoubtedly handle a heavier bullet. 200 or 220gr is possible. For defense against big bitey creatures that is a decided deep penetration advantage.
All in all, on the high end, the 357 and 10mm are pretty close.
On the downside 10mm ammo is just plain silly expensive.
Where the 10mm loses to the 357, in my opinion, is in versatility. It does not have the option of shooting cheaper factory 357 ammo and target 38's are also out of the question.

If you reload for 10mm - or are looking for a gun that is moon clip ready - or are carrying in the woods with big bears - or just want something different - then, yes, Dayum. Lots of good reasons why you need this gun.

Ruger is listening to its customers.

Since this Ruger uses moon clips, you have the option of using .40 S&W ammunition, which is still less expensive than .357 and .38 Special. Moon clips are faster to reload versus speed loaders and strips.

10mm ammunition is available in 10mm Lite to Nuclear loads. Premium ammunition costs pretty close to eachother (think Buffalo Bore).

Reloading truly brings out the potential for the cartridge. 10mm 135gr JHPs can be pushed faster than .357 125gr JHPs.

I've bugged Virginia Arms yesterday about getting one of these for me, I'll be bugging All Shooters Tactical today about it. I should be getting one some time in the next two months.

alucard0822 · Apr 29, 2018

Have a 610, can shoot 40 or 10 with no issues, even states that in the manual. The Ruger is probably the same, can also load 10mm to longer OAL, as long as it fits in the cylinder, it will work. Can load to 1.350" instead of 10's usual 1.250", plenty of recipes pushing 180-200gr up to 1400fps or 135s around 1700fps . Can also ream the chambers to accept 10mm magnum, and get even more power, at a little bit of loss to 40s&w accuracy. It's an awesome wheelgun caliber, you have both more power AND cheaper, softer shooting ammo than a 45acp revolver.

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