IWI Tavor impressions?

BradMacc82 · Feb 1, 2014

1ceman said:
Out of the box its not so "lefty" friendly. But how many are there?

Then buy the left hand model.

I'm southpaw on long guns, I've shot Mdeng's and SCARCQB's as a lefty, and they have right-handed models.

*Although SCAR's is easier to deal with when he throws that AAC suppressor on, the ejection is not an issue at all with that excess gas pressure.

Pinecone · Feb 2, 2014

erwos said:
Well, wait a second. The MSP has been telling people they're following the BATFE standard, and the BATFE has, for whatever reason, been telling people you can only count the muzzle device if it's permanently attached. Not sure I think this interpretation would hold up in court, but it's something to consider.

If this is the case, there are probably other rifles that will fail then. The only flash hiders that are pinned that I know of are on sub 16" barrels.

I have not checked, but does ATF require pinned for overall length? I know they do for barrel length.

OK, the ATF does not specify that for overall length.

The overall length of a firearm is the distance between the muzzle of the barrel and the rearmost portion
of the weapon measured on a line parallel to the axis of the bore.

They DO specify method of attachment for barrel length (underlining by the ATF):

The ATF procedure for measuring barrel length is to measure from the closed bolt (or breech-face) to
the furthermost end of the barrel or permanently attached muzzle device. Permanent methods of
attachment include full-fusion gas or electric steel-seam welding, high-temperature (1100°F) silver
soldering, or blind pinning with the pin head welded over. Barrels are measured by inserting a dowel rod
into the barrel until the rod stops against the bolt or breech-face. The rod is then marked at the
furthermost end of the barrel or permanently attached muzzle device, withdrawn from the barrel, and
measured.

erwos · Feb 2, 2014

Pinecone said:
If this is the case, there are probably other rifles that will fail then.

I absolutely agree.

OK, the ATF does not specify that for overall length.

Chad posted up an opinion letter that specifies what I wrote. I believed the same thing you did until I saw it.

Lostinbmore · Feb 3, 2014

I love mine, I am a lefty so it was nice to have a rifle that doesn't send not brass in my face.

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Maverick0313 · Feb 3, 2014

1ceman said:
Out of the box its not so "lefty" friendly. But how many are there?

a "lefty" version from 2A.....woot.....

Maverick0313 · Feb 3, 2014

tomandjerry00 said:
One of my favorite rifles I own and my go to for home defense. It fits and swings so perfectly. Everyone I let handle or shoot it is always extemely impressed with how it fits and almost becomes one with the shooter. With a 16.5" barrel, it's still shorter than most 10" sbr's. The gun also looks sweet. I can't imagine a better close quarters gun.

That said, trigger sucks and will affect your accuracy. Mine is about as accurate as my AK-47 at 100 yards. Does not compete accuracy wise with my colt ARs.

Will also need 100 rounds or so to break in.

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Timney and Geiselle are both coming out with triggers for the Tavor this spring. There is also a workaround to take the second spring off of the trigger assembly - you can see the video on You Tube. :party29:

SCARCQB · Feb 3, 2014

Shooting a right hand Tavor Lefty is okay. use 5.56 ammo and it throws brass forward at 1 o clock position, weaker loaded 223 can sometimes still result in kissing hot brass.

As Bradmac indicated, a suppressor enhances blowback and helps throw brass like a hot 5.56

BTW...... My Eotech's bottom is full of caked up Soot from firing suppressed. not really sure why soot is getting deposited there. maybe the Tavor vents gas upwards towards the rails.

Maverick0313 · Feb 3, 2014

Was watching Expendables 2 yesterday......I THINK at the end before Van Damme fights Stallone, the last rifle he throws aside is a Tavor??? Anyone else catch this?

Also: http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Tavor_TAR-21_rifle_series

Pinecone · Feb 3, 2014

erwos said:
Chad posted up an opinion letter that specifies what I wrote. I believed the same thing you did until I saw it.

You have a link to that letter?

erwos · Feb 3, 2014

Pinecone said:
You have a link to that letter?

Not offhand, unfortunately. I think he posted it straight in the thread.

SCARCQB · Feb 3, 2014

The Hebrew Hammer

Ganegrei · Feb 3, 2014

Having finally shot mine a fair bit I think the Tavor is a vastly superior gun to both the AUG and the FS2000. Now I just need to save up some cash to buy some real optics for it.

Rack&Roll · Feb 3, 2014

You watch.

It won't be long until there's a bunch of TAVORS out there with sweet target triggers shooting 5.56, 300 Blackout and 9mm with owners crowing about a LONG list of cool options/switchouts…

…and kids coming up will say "Wait…Dad…you had a chance to buy one of these with the 16.5" barrel and you passed?"

Ouch….

Erno86 · Feb 3, 2014

If you're standing next to the Tavor's muzzle without a suppressor attached --- it has a very loud muzzle blast --- so much that you'll need ear muffs and ear plugs.

jvegas · Feb 3, 2014

Erno86 said:
If you're standing next to the Tavor's muzzle without a suppressor attached --- it has a very loud muzzle blast --- so much that you'll need ear muffs and ear plugs.

True. And lots of blowback.

mikey6480 · Feb 5, 2014

Love my Tavor. Duffy's has a regular supply of them with the longer muzzle device already attached.

BuRNMIA · Feb 5, 2014

I should have picked one up before Oct 1st. I handled one at Duffy's and really liked it but the new OAL requierment puts a wrench in my decision to get one.

Wayne1one · Feb 5, 2014

BuRNMIA said:
I should have picked one up before Oct 1st. I handled one at Duffy's and really liked it but the new OAL requierment puts a wrench in my decision to get one.

It's actually not that bad if you get an 18" barrel..

hacktracker · Feb 6, 2014

Wayne1one said:
It's actually not that bad if you get an 18" barrel..

For what it's worth, IWI had a MD-compliant Tavor at the Outdoor Show in Harrisburg, PA (where the Tavor is made) over the weekend.

It had an 18" barrel and a longer muzzle device. It wasn't pinned/welded; I could unthread it by hand. This may not indicate final the production configuration, but that's how it was at their booth.

Don

Jed195 · Feb 6, 2014

I think the pinned and welded fix is for making a barrel length 16", not an overall length fix. I believe an 18" Tavor with the proper length muzzle device is good to go as far as OAL without pinning or welding the muzzle device on, I could be wrong though. Either way my 40th birthday present to myself will be an 18" Tavor in Black unless they offer an OD green model! :party29:

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