Good Article in USA Today

2nd=Good+Substantial · Jun 5, 2013

I was surprised to see a lengthy front page article today on how guns laws have been ineffective in Camden NJ. Maryland's AWB and Baltimore's crime problem were mentioned. Sorry I couldn't figure out how to post a link from my phone.

daNattyFatty · Jun 5, 2013

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...urce=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=206567

2nd=Good+Substantial · Jun 5, 2013

daNattyFatty said:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...urce=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=206567

Thanks!

hvymax · Jun 5, 2013

Holy Crap they are actually looking at the real problem.

frogman68 · Jun 5, 2013

hvymax said:
Holy Crap they are actually looking at the real problem.

it's too early for a tin foil hat but I am reading this as the beginning of them going after handguns, 98% of crime is with handguns etc in the article

danb · Jun 5, 2013

any chance these frustrated city leaders will openly object to MAIG wrongheaded agenda? heaven forbid!

maddogthegreatest · Jun 5, 2013

Old news to me...

When I was young and naive, I believed less gun = less gun crime....

Now, older and wiser me just could not trust anything comes out from any politician's mouth... :sad20:

abean4187 · Jun 5, 2013

Old news to us but this is something that people need to see more often. Newton isn't our problems as situations like that are so rare. What the nation should be focusing on is the immense issues with inner city poverty and high crime rates among young men who feel that they have literally nothing left to live for outside of their street cred.

danb · Jun 5, 2013

good article. in a city where 42.5% of the city's residents live in poverty, where do people get the money to pay a significant markup over retail to pay a straw purchaser in PA for a nine millimeter?

A: Drugs
B: Prostitution
C: Obamabucks
D: all of the above.

jpo183 · Jun 5, 2013

I thought there was another interesting thing pointed out.

Charter schools. Performance based teacher pay resulted in almost ALL students going to college.

RavensFan11 · Jun 5, 2013

I thought it interesting that the PA official, despite the article pointing out the uselessness of gun laws...wanted more gun laws in PA. Again, trying to make the object the problem as opposed to the person holding the object.

MDFF2008 · Jun 5, 2013

I absolutely believe handguns will be the next attack; although I expected then to try to finish with the AWB first.

edinsomd · Jun 5, 2013

RavensFan11 said:
I thought it interesting that the PA official, despite the article pointing out the uselessness of gun laws...wanted more gun laws in PA. Again, trying to make the object the problem as opposed to the person holding the object.

It's much easier to pass new reulations than to enforce existing ones.

jonnyl · Jun 5, 2013

edinsomd said:
It's much easier to pass new reulations than to enforce existing ones.

Passing laws is also much cheaper.. Think how expensive it would be to address the real problems.

Keep violent criminals in jail OR let them out and blame guns for the violence
Aggressively prosecute straw purchases and make examples enough out of them to be a deterrent OR pass laws making it more of a pain to buy a gun and hope straw purchasers that are perfectly willing to lie on federal and state forms will balk at giving their fingerprints
Fund armed guards in schools OR claim that we shouldn't turn our schools into armed camps and blame the NRA and AR15s for school violence
etc....etc....etc....

but they'll never say "we can't afford to solve these problems" when it's easier to blame guns, gun owners, and the NRA...

why2kmax · Jun 5, 2013

what pizzes me off is they make it sound like anyone and everyone from NJ or MD or whereever can walk into a gun store in PA and buy whatever they want, walk out, take it back across the border and start shootin up the place, because there are lax gun laws and a glut of guns blah blah its ********.

Most criminals are stealing guns, buying them from straw purchasers or tapping states with more lax gun laws such as Virginia and Pennsylvania, Thomson said.

In Pennsylvania, no permit is required to buy guns in stores or at gun shows, and there's no limit to the number of firearms a person can purchase at one time. Instead, the state requires a permit to carry weapons openly or concealed outside of a home.

"Pennsylvania is one of the states where there is just a glut of firearms," said Philadelphia Police Commissioner Charles H. Ramsey. "You don't have to travel too far to get your hand on a gun here."

Ramsey, who wants stronger gun laws, acknowledged that his city's weapons often make their way into Camden.

rbird7282 · Jun 5, 2013

why2kmax said:
what pizzes me off is they make it sound like anyone and everyone from NJ or MD or whereever can walk into a gun store in PA and buy whatever they want, walk out, take it back across the border and start shootin up the place, because there are lax gun laws and a glut of guns blah blah its ********.

Most criminals are stealing guns, buying them from straw purchasers or tapping states with more lax gun laws such as Virginia and Pennsylvania, Thomson said.

In Pennsylvania, no permit is required to buy guns in stores or at gun shows, and there's no limit to the number of firearms a person can purchase at one time. Instead, the state requires a permit to carry weapons openly or concealed outside of a home.

"Pennsylvania is one of the states where there is just a glut of firearms," said Philadelphia Police Commissioner Charles H. Ramsey. "You don't have to travel too far to get your hand on a gun here."

Ramsey, who wants stronger gun laws, acknowledged that his city's weapons often make their way into Camden.

Ramsey was an asshat commissioner when he was in DC. I see nothing has changed.....

swerv88 · Jun 5, 2013

Would be nice if they actually passed tougher laws for the criminals instead of just taking the honest man's $$$

Ranger Tom · Jun 6, 2013

rbird7282 said:
Ramsey was an asshat commissioner when he was in DC. I see nothing has changed.....

That's why he's a Brady Bunch darling.

Other than Ramsey's crap it is a good article. Wonder how many pols read it and say this is what we need to do?

JasonB · Jun 6, 2013

swerv88 said:
Would be nice if they actually passed tougher laws for the criminals instead of just taking the honest man's $$$

That's too expensive.

I can't wait until we can use the sound bytes from the SB281 debate against the incumbents. Soft on crime because jail costs too much.

jrumann59 · Jun 6, 2013

RavensFan11 said:
I thought it interesting that the PA official, despite the article pointing out the uselessness of gun laws...wanted more gun laws in PA. Again, trying to make the object the problem as opposed to the person holding the object.

Yes former DC Police Chief Ramsey.

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