define "concealed"

Allium · Jul 28, 2009

Define concealed vs open carry from a LEO perspective. Reason I ask is if I was 6'2" 145lbs with a defined waist it would be a different story but at 5'6" 200lbs and shaped like Louis DePalma I will usually wear my shirts untucked. I plan on open carrying in Va on vacation but my standard dress is shorts/jeans, tee shirt and a unbuttoned cuban shirt. So with an unbuttoned shirt carrying on the hip is that considered open enough?

I can legally ccw but not feasible with my build and normal tee shirts

fivepointstar · Jul 28, 2009

I would contact Virginia State Police and get their definition of concealed

E.Shell · Jul 28, 2009

If the shirt falls over the "openly" carried gun enough to conceal it from common observation at any time, you are carrying a concealed weapon during the time it is concealed. If you have a permit to CCW, and you're in an area where open carry is legal, this is a non-issue.

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-308

§ 18.2-308. Personal protection; carrying concealed weapons; when lawful to carry.

A. If any person carries about his person, hidden from common observation, (i) any pistol, revolver, or other weapon designed or intended to propel a missile of any kind by action of an explosion of any combustible material; (ii) any dirk, bowie knife, switchblade knife, ballistic knife, machete, razor, slingshot, spring stick, metal knucks, or blackjack; (iii) any flailing instrument consisting of two or more rigid parts connected in such a manner as to allow them to swing freely, which may be known as a nun chahka, nun chuck, nunchaku, shuriken, or fighting chain; (iv) any disc, of whatever configuration, having at least two points or pointed blades which is designed to be thrown or propelled and which may be known as a throwing star or oriental dart; or (v) any weapon of like kind as those enumerated in this subsection, he shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. A second violation of this section or a conviction under this section subsequent to any conviction under any substantially similar ordinance of any county, city, or town shall be punishable as a Class 6 felony, and a third or subsequent such violation shall be punishable as a Class 5 felony. For the purpose of this section, a weapon shall be deemed to be hidden from common observation when it is observable but is of such deceptive appearance as to disguise the weapon's true nature.

3rdRcn · Jul 28, 2009

I try to open carry by the rule that if they can't see it from three sides then it might be considered concealed.

andyman · Jul 28, 2009

3rdRcn said:
I try to open carry by the rule that if they can't see it from three sides then it might be considered concealed.

wow I really do need to loose some weight, there are places on my shirt you cant see from 3 sides.

andy

3rdRcn · Jul 28, 2009

andyman said:
wow I really do need to loose some weight, there are places on my shirt you cant see from 3 sides.

andy

Not even in a mirror?

novus collectus · Jul 28, 2009

andyman said:
wow I really do need to loose some weight, there are places on my shirt you cant see from 3 sides.

andy

Carry a bigger gun. Desert Eagle?

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