Rust never sleeps on the shottie

BlueHeeler · Jun 3, 2010

I have an 870 Express I use for trap/sporting clays on weekends and HD during the week. After a workout on the weekend, the receiver and barrel (to a degree) will be absolutely furry with rust by Tuesday. I keep the gun in the coolest driest place in the house, but it still rusts almost instantly. 000 steel wool will clean up the rust, but I am also removing metal. Is there an oil or some protectant that will keep the gun in good health?

I suspect the rust has to do with condensation from bringing the gun outside, shooting, and into the AC house, but I am not sure. It seems to happen all at once if conditions are right.

Advice?

Ethan83 · Jun 3, 2010

Eezox. Don't think you can find it in retailers, gotta order it online.

K31 · Jun 3, 2010

Eezox.

clandestine · Jun 3, 2010

BlueHeeler said:
I have an 870 Express I use for trap/sporting clays on weekends and HD during the week. After a workout on the weekend, the receiver and barrel (to a degree) will be absolutely furry with rust by Tuesday. I keep the gun in the coolest driest place in the house, but it still rusts almost instantly. 000 steel wool will clean up the rust, but I am also removing metal. Is there an oil or some protectant that will keep the gun in good health?

I suspect the rust has to do with condensation from bringing the gun outside, shooting, and into the AC house, but I am not sure. It seems to happen all at once if conditions are right.

Advice?

At this point nothing will really help as it sits. Theres rust under the surface, you are just knocking off the surface stuff.

You can slow the rust but you wont stop it.

EEZOX will work best.

If you want to solve the problem have the gun ceracoted. It will never rust again, even in salt water.

Some peoples body PH dont agree with guns, so it could just be your body chemistry rusting it (Oils and Sweat). I know my hands will rust any gun fast, its like acid. I have to wipe everything metal down after I touch it or it will rust.

Boondock Saint · Jun 3, 2010

Echoing the Eezox chorus here. In my amateur opinion, it's one of the best rust preventatives on the market, and it smells great, too!

Jimbob2.0 · Jun 3, 2010

Eezox will really slow it down, we all have had surplus guns that have had rust on them at one point (no way something was carried through three wars and stored in a bunker between them without rust). Really slows down the process to an unnoticable pace.

CLP is next best, I keep both but use the Eezox on the older surplus guns.

Half-cocked · Jun 3, 2010

I have a T/C black powder rifle, I swear if you just breath on it, it develops a thin coating of rust. I have learned to keep it well-oiled, and only take it out on dry days.

BlueHeeler · Jun 4, 2010

Thanks for the info.

I am not sure there is an underlying rust issue. The reason I think that is even a brand new barrel going from outside at the range (hot/humid) to inside AC it rusted up in a day or so. If I wipe it down with a cloth or steel wool it cleans up just fine.

I will be buying some Eezox ASAP. :thumbsup:

Biggfoot44 · Jun 4, 2010

While Ezeox is undoubedly decent stuff, the big issue is the rust forming in 2-3 days . A light coating of any type of oil should be providing more short term protection than that. Either you live in an environment with really nasty salt/ acidic vappors, or there is an issue with your personal body chemestry, and the particular blueing formula. Happens sometimes. My blue Dan Wesson will develope a light coat of rust while stuck in waistband.
As mentioned there are any number of aftermarket finishes/ coatings that are "highly rust resistant" . But for you described usage, a wipedown after use, and weekly should handle the situation.

Ieatpeople · Jun 4, 2010

i just wipe my shottie down with a silicone cloth after cleaning it, and it stays rust free.

here's the one i use:

K31 · Jun 4, 2010

Biggfoot44 said:
While Ezeox is undoubedly decent stuff, the big issue is the rust forming in 2-3 days . A light coating of any type of oil should be providing more short term protection than that. Either you live in an environment with really nasty salt/ acidic vappors, or there is an issue with your personal body chemestry, and the particular blueing formula. Happens sometimes. My blue Dan Wesson will develope a light coat of rust while stuck in waistband.
As mentioned there are any number of aftermarket finishes/ coatings that are "highly rust resistant" . But for you described usage, a wipedown after use, and weekly should handle the situation.

If eezox is applied correctly it will provide a dry, surface coating to the metal that won't easy be pushed or rub off like oil.

hvymax · Jun 4, 2010

The silicone treated gunsocks work for me.

BlueHeeler · Jun 4, 2010

Biggfoot44 said:
While Ezeox is undoubedly decent stuff, the big issue is the rust forming in 2-3 days . A light coating of any type of oil should be providing more short term protection than that. Either you live in an environment with really nasty salt/ acidic vappors, or there is an issue with your personal body chemestry, and the particular blueing formula. Happens sometimes. My blue Dan Wesson will develope a light coat of rust while stuck in waistband.
As mentioned there are any number of aftermarket finishes/ coatings that are "highly rust resistant" . But for you described usage, a wipedown after use, and weekly should handle the situation.

There is no oil on the gun, which maybe the problem. I do not think it is body chemistry problem because it is all over the gun, not just the parts I have handled. I should have taken a pic.

Now that I think about it, the problem has gotten worse since it warmed up outside. So I wonder if taking it from cool dry inside to hot humid outside is causing very small amounts of water to condense. The barrel that stays inside and is not subjected to temp and humidity changes does not rust. Not sure.

I will give Eezox and a silicone wipe down cloth a try. :thumbsup:

K31 · Jun 4, 2010

BlueHeeler said:
There is no oil on the gun,

Boondock Saint · Jun 4, 2010

I don't oil any of my guns. I prefer storing them in the shower and never running the exhaust fan.

smokey · Jun 4, 2010

BlueHeeler said:
There is no oil on the gun, which maybe the problem. I do not think it is body chemistry problem because it is all over the gun, not just the parts I have handled. I should have taken a pic.

Now that I think about it, the problem has gotten worse since it warmed up outside. So I wonder if taking it from cool dry inside to hot humid outside is causing very small amounts of water to condense. The barrel that stays inside and is not subjected to temp and humidity changes does not rust. Not sure.

I will give Eezox and a silicone wipe down cloth a try.

air holds more vater vapor when it warms up...so it's natural to expect quicker rust. ure gun should be parkerized right? That coating won't really stop rust, but does act like a nice sponge to hold oil. remember how oil and water don't really mix? also remember how most oils are attracted to metals? You should AT LEAST be wiping it down with a light coat of remoil before storing it. steel wool is good at removing rust, but also has pretty fine steel particles in it that can end up in the finish itself if you wont wipe it down with a nice oily rag to remove them. While looking for eezox(or paying scotts gunsmithing a visit to have them cerakote or stealthcoat ure firearm) you should definately keep it stored with remoil to displace the water on it and act as a nice barrier(also cleans the outside too). Barricade is also good stuff if you can't find eezox.....i mean commahn man, gun storage 101 here.

BlueHeeler · Jun 4, 2010

smokey0118 said:
air holds more vater vapor when it warms up...so it's natural to expect quicker rust. ure gun should be parkerized right? That coating won't really stop rust, but does act like a nice sponge to hold oil. remember how oil and water don't really mix? also remember how most oils are attracted to metals? You should AT LEAST be wiping it down with a light coat of remoil before storing it. steel wool is good at removing rust, but also has pretty fine steel particles in it that can end up in the finish itself if you wont wipe it down with a nice oily rag to remove them. While looking for eezox(or paying scotts gunsmithing a visit to have them cerakote or stealthcoat ure firearm) you should definately keep it stored with remoil to displace the water on it and act as a nice barrier(also cleans the outside too). Barricade is also good stuff if you can't find eezox.....i mean commahn man, gun storage 101 here.

Thanks for the 101. I never had the gun storage lesson.

I just bought all the rust preventatives I will need for a while. More fun with guns.

kstone803 · Jun 4, 2010

RIG. Nuff said. and a jar will last you a lifetime

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=567717

IlikeNFA · Jun 4, 2010

Ill throw my vote in for Corrosion-X. Ive been using its for ~5 years and never had a spec of rust on any of my firearms. Anything that begins life in a marine application for preventing rust and is heavily recommended makes me feel pretty warm and fuzzy for dry usage. That being said, Eezox also works extremely well. Those very well may be the two best products for rust prevention.

phidelta308 · Jun 5, 2010

I like ballistol. I use it on my guns and carbon steel knives. I haven't had any problems with rust on something wiped with ballistol.

Rust never sleeps on the shottie

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