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Any e-mails have been ignored as expected. Wrong voting bloc and wrong agenda.
And I'm sure they're making a list and checking it twice.
House bill 175, ammo back ground check
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Any e-mails have been ignored as expected. Wrong voting bloc and wrong agenda.
And I'm sure they're making a list and checking it twice.
Clark W. Griswold
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- Oct 5, 2009
- 933
I normally send handwritten letters as I’ve always felt they carry more weight than an email. But I’m wondering if a letter would even be opened in the Covid era?
Kicken Wing
Snakes and Sparklers
Clark W. Griswold
Active Member
- Oct 5, 2009
- 933
****Yes. They are opened - perhaps only if they have cash in them though...
Problem with that is they already have all of my cash
Exactly what Occam wrote.
Laz, you need to understand. We showed up in Annapolis in 2013 with an estimated 5000 protesters. I don’t think a single bill was shot down.
When 1 of the bills was shot down, a recess was called to straighten out who voted “wrong” and a re-vote taken to “correct” the “wrong” vote.
They’re not misinformed...they’re evil f*cking pricks that hate you and free people.
Kicken Wing
Snakes and Sparklers
Isn't THAT the truth. I have a feeling that after this session is over they are going to have even more of it. I would sincerely hope that receiving a handwritten letter would not be a deterrent from reading or opening a letter on their part. They are already cutting us off at the knees this year. I hope your letters get through and make an impact. It is letter and testimony season. I appreciate every single person that tries to make a difference. I just became more active last year and I saw how our testimonies DID make a difference.
whistlersmother
Peace through strength
They are politicians without morals - meaning they'll take campaign contributions from anyone with an innocuous sounding name.
I wonder if a bundler got some cash together if a few would listen and water down or vote against bills.
I wonder if a bundler got some cash together if a few would listen and water down or vote against bills.
Kicken Wing
Snakes and Sparklers
That's F'd up. I was not there in 2013. I was just getting into target shooting and started panic buying. Your story is certainly discouraging. Last year there was nowhere near 5000 people that made a showing for our cause but nearly every bill lost traction except for the long gun bill. It was tweaked, passed by both houses then vetoed by Larry. This year.... We will see.
Not sure of its accuracy, but an article in today’s Bowie Blade regarding Mike Miller’s sterling performance in the MGA contained a statement that Democrats have held both chambers since WWI. If true, Republicans have their work cut out for them I’d say.
Defense Rifle
Active Member
Since they carved out HQL holders being exempted from a background check for ammo this will basically compel many Marylanders to get the HQL thus increasing the actively state-managed gun owner database. HQL holders basically have background checks ran on them periodically either way. It will most certainly kill of mail ordered ammo to a large extent, and the price of ammo will rocket up in MD. MGA will probably also add a gun and ammo tax in addition to the already sales tax.
None of this is surprising though.
I made a post about this back in Dec 2019:
None of this is surprising though.
I made a post about this back in Dec 2019:
Kicken Wing
Snakes and Sparklers
Un-freakin-believable! That was dirty all the way around. I know from my experience that the current MGA is extremely criminal friendly and they are clamoring to create a new category of criminals out of law abiding citizens. that was obvious by reading last years bills. These videos drive it home. I can see why some people on this board have given up hope. I do not have those experiences under my belt. I am speechless. Literally. That is how our legislators prefer it. Jeeez
Defense Rifle
Active Member
Kicken Wing
Snakes and Sparklers
He says, "you would have to be an nut not to" in regards to background checks. He actually said he thinks background checks keep guns out of the hands of people who are not supposed to have them. Wow. I wonder how many people they had to try to interview before they found the 2 guys that pushed their media narrative.
People are too quick to forget how awful the 2013 bill was and how something was going to pass no matter what.
People also forget that when you're facing opposition that has nothing to fear from you given their uninhibited control of all levers of state government, you make nice with certain people who might still stick it to you down the road.
Way too many people were jumping for joy when Vallario and Zirkin left and Miller stepped down.
Not people I'd call my friends or who I'd vote for, but they occasionally kept the worst impulses of the left in check.
Your semi auto rifle selection would be 5% of what it is today if Vallario had not engaged us.
PowPow
Where's the beef?
Also, don't throw out the idea that they were paid actors. The ends justify the means with the crowd pushing this agenda.
People also forget that the bill was originally dead, and the Governor, Speaker of the House, and President of the Senate, THREATENED ALL of the Democrats on the joint committee to pass the bill. That's right, we had this bill beat so bad, they had to htreaten their own members to pass the bill.
But they did fear us in 2013, so much so, that Miller sat in on the joint committee vote on the bill. WTF was the President of the Senate doing sitting in on a House Committee vote? He was there to ensure that the Democrats didn't step out of line and did, what they were threatened to do.
Miller was the one that called for a quick recess on the vote in the video, not Vallario. They had a quick meting with the Governor and the Delegate that voted "incorrectly" to have a revote and to have him vote correctly. Vallario was NOT happy about having to vote on that amendment.
People really do not realize how evenly both Vallraio and Zirkin treated us. They both understood the bills and the law, and to a certain extent, what the outcome would be. Both were gentlemen to work with (anyone can feel free to flame me that, if they think I'm wrong. If they do, they have absolutely no clue how much both men worked with us as much as they could).
Bertfish
Throw bread on me
Vallario and Zirkin were the cream of the crap I agree. They were at least fair and allowed the dialogue to happen. Mike and Mike were of that same old school Dem breed.
This new breed is not as just. They just eliminate opposition rather than debate because they will lose.
This new breed is not as just. They just eliminate opposition rather than debate because they will lose.
Truth be told I completely forgot about the revote part with Miller there.
Another forgotten aspect of this is that it was all performative to give O'Malley a 2016 primary talking point.
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