Vortex Venom or Burris Fastfire III?

mumfrey · May 15, 2018

I'm a total newb with red dots but want to get one for my Ruger MKIV 22/45. From what I've read and seen in vids, I think I've narrowed it down to a Vortex Venom or a Burris Fastfire III. The Vortex seems to be about $50 more. Anyone like or dislike these?

engineerbrian · May 15, 2018

Big fan of the Fast Fire 3, i have 3 of them and one is on a Ruger 22/45.

Fair price and a lifetime warranty.

mumfrey · May 15, 2018

engineerbrian said:
Big fan of the Fast Fire 3, i have 3 of them and one is on a Ruger 22/45.

Fair price and a lifetime warranty.

Thanks! Great news to me cuz the Burris is cheaper....how about MOA? It will be used as a plinking accessory, used at 25 yards max. I'm thinking 3 MOA for that close? Yes?

John from MD · May 15, 2018

I have several FFIII and think it is the perfect sight on my Ruger 22/45. They also can take a beating and keep on working as the one on my .44 Magnum rifle proves. I shoot full .44 Mag rifle loads and it never missed a beat. I hear good stuff about Vortex but I have never had the opportunity to try one out.

mumfrey · May 15, 2018

John from MD said:
I have several FFIII and think it is the perfect sight on my Ruger 22/45. They also can take a beating and keep on working as the one on my .44 Magnum rifle proves. I shoot full .44 Mag rifle loads and it never missed a beat. I hear good stuff about Vortex but I have never had the opportunity to try one out.

Thanks! Do you have the 3 MOA?

John from MD · May 15, 2018

Yes they are the 3 MOA models.

CHEF · May 15, 2018

I have a FF3 3 moa on a CZ scorpion. I shoot it at 25 yards all the time. Plenty accurate and holds zero.

mumfrey · May 15, 2018

Thanks, everyone! Looks like Burris for the win.

Jollyllama · May 15, 2018

Burris has been great, had it for a couple/ few years now. I think for your application it will work. I have no experience with the venom.

mumfrey · May 15, 2018

Jollyllama said:
Burris has been great, had it for a couple/ few years now. I think for your application it will work. I have no experience with the venom.

Thanks, feeling quite confident going with the Burris now. Appreciate the feedback, love this board, extremely helpful.

That's a nice setup. Are they the original grips?

Jollyllama · May 18, 2018

They are not original grips. They are Brazilian cherry and I got them on eBay for a surprisingly good price. The medallions are factory ruger medallions and the grips are very well made and fit perfectly. They shipped from some country south of ours; it has been a while so I don’t recall which central or South American country it was.

If you haven’t I’d suggest putting a tandemkross or similar aftermarket hammer/ seat in the trigger assembly. It vastly improves the trigger and is a cheap mod. Also get the spacer to remove the magazine safety. While you have it apart take the bolt release piece out so you can slingshot the slide/ bolt. All easy to do, but that sear is slippery. So you will drop it at least 10 times before you get it installed.

67temp · May 18, 2018

I previously compared the venom to a friends ff3. I ended up putting 2 venoms on my 10ga and 12ga turkey guns. I chose the venom because it seemed better for a field gun. The vortex had better adjustability for the brightness controls and larger field of view. The auto bright of the burris didn't seem like it took into account the lighting down range. So if you are shooting from a darker position into the light the dot would get washed out and barely be visible.

Here is a good video of the comparison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntWp-yRQDS0

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