Might as well ask the same question with regards to a pre 1968 firearm, since serial numbers were not required until 1968, and there are a hell of a lot more pre 1968, unseiralized, firearms than there are home built firearms.
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Might as well ask the same question with regards to a pre 1968 firearm, since serial numbers were not required until 1968, and there are a hell of a lot more pre 1968, unseiralized, firearms than there are home built firearms.
Why would an officer be interested in any firearms in a vehicle during a traffic stop?
There is nothing illegal in my vehicle.
- Feb 19, 2013
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So many here give answers that always have me spending money..
You aren't kidding. I don't even know how much I've spent on jigs alone.
rickyp
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I drive a f150 supercrew with a cap and a jeep Wrangler.
Both of these vehicles are open and easy to see into. All my window are tinted but still can be seen trough if looked hard enough.
If the officer sees a gun case and or ammo boxes he/she could say it gives them probable cause to search the vehicle.
The police force has changed a lot and not for the better. But that is a discussion for another time.
Both of these vehicles are open and easy to see into. All my window are tinted but still can be seen trough if looked hard enough.
If the officer sees a gun case and or ammo boxes he/she could say it gives them probable cause to search the vehicle.
The police force has changed a lot and not for the better. But that is a discussion for another time.
rickyp
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- Sep 13, 2009
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So many here give answers that always have me spending money..
The sad thing is by the time you finish building one you could have just about bought a new one or bought a used one a little cheeper then spent on the build.
Glock parts are becoming very. Expensive and harder to find.
A few months ago the slide part kit ran about $60 and somewhat easy to get.
Now the same parts kit run over $117 and sold out just about every here I looked.
A used complete Glock 17 slide runs about $400.
Most of the time they are higher. I have seen stripped slides costing more then $700.!
Prices are getting crazy so if you want to build one. On a budget you need to act now.
I like the act of building. I find it relaxing. Especially the 1911's.
rickyp
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I would love to build a 1911 and a real ar-15 lower
But I don't have the tools, shop or skills to machine steel and aluminum that precise
The poly80 looks to be easy enough with basic hand tools and some basic gun Smith skills.
I am not so sure how the poly80 ar15 lower will hold up after several years of use. I have seen plastic. Lowers crack along the buffer tube well.
But I don't have the tools, shop or skills to machine steel and aluminum that precise
The poly80 looks to be easy enough with basic hand tools and some basic gun Smith skills.
I am not so sure how the poly80 ar15 lower will hold up after several years of use. I have seen plastic. Lowers crack along the buffer tube well.
Powerstroke
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Check out the 5Dtactical jig. All you need is a DeWalt router and a hand drill and you are set.
Check out the Matrix Precision 1911 jigs. No real skills needed. Will cut the rails. You make the slide fit by stoning the rails.
rickyp
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I don't have the tools for that.
From my understanding of how the law is written now I can't go to your house and use your tools while you watch.
They cought on to the build party's
From my understanding of how the law is written now I can't go to your house and use your tools while you watch.
They cought on to the build party's
I just got the easy jig from 80%lowers and now y’all have me wanting a Glock and 1911 jig and lowers!
I believe you can use my tools if you are not paying me. The ATF ruling was about businesses. I don't see anything there that applied to individuals. You do have the tools, or you can buy them very cheaply.
DutchV
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- Jul 8, 2012
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This is correct. Two buddies hanging out in the garage is not the same as renting time on a shop's CNC mill.
Having a firearms case or an ammo case IS NOT enough for probable cause, they need to have a sense that you are doing something ILLEGAL.
The BGOS is still strong in this state.
You can go to his house, you can use his tools, he can even instruct you on how to use the tools. You can't pay him and if you are using a CNC machine, yo have to provide your own code, you can't just use his and load your blank and push a button.
And that is NOT how a build party works, a build party is everyone bringing their particular projects, the tools and jigs they happen to have and everyone helps everyone make progress with their respective progress. The ATF determination still does NOT prevent that.
It likely wouldnt. However most times I have been pulled over I am asked "Any guns drugs rocket launchers ect ect ect in the car i need to know about"
How am I supposed to answer that? If i say yes there is a handgun you bet they are going to want to see it. If I refuse most officers arent going to just leave it at that.
Do I respond "there is nothing illegal in the car" to the question "Any firearms/drugs in the car i need to know about? I feel like that answer is basically saying yes I have a firearm but it is legal. Because it is clear that you avoided the actual question.
Idk maybe my experiences with police are not the normal. I havent been stopped since I was younger but whenever I was it was often a problem. I have had my car searched before because i guess i "looked like someone who would do drugs" and they brought a dog out that did a BS hit and they found nothing. My experience is if they want to search your car, they will do it. Period.
I guess my experiences with stops have not been very good so I am inclined to be prepared how to handle any situation.
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You will fit right in here poopdolla. Welcome.
"That I need to know about". Simple, honest answer: "No, officer". It's never in your interest to answer questions that haven't been asked.
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