Black powder revolver

smdub · Apr 15, 2019

I bought my Walker ~5yrs ago. Paid $350 during Christmas sale at Cabelas. Its a HOOT! Its trivial to download BP but it doesn't have much recoil at all even full loaded. Its basically a 44-60? A polymer 9mm has far more snap than it does. FWIW, Mine takes smaller than advertised caps. I can pinch down the recommended ones to work but smaller ones are better.

K31 · Apr 15, 2019

Get a LeMat repo.

Mike OTDP · Apr 15, 2019

For a novice, the Remington 1858 will be a better performer. Remember that these guns are being made to a price point. You're getting a lot of gun for the money, but it's not much money. So you can expect some issues, particularly with alignment of the chambers with the bore.

Archeryrob · Apr 15, 2019

I've gotten 2 of the 1858's on sale now. I just wish the extra cylinders would go on sale at some point. Or a conversion cylinder for 45LC wasn't the cost of a cheap gun alone!

John from MD · Apr 15, 2019

Conversion cylinders work better on '58's as they won't beat the gun up. I have shot literally a few thousand 45 colt loads at 850 FPS and the guns show no wear. I can't say that about one of the 1860 Colt's I have.

BeoBill · Apr 15, 2019

Melnic said:
like mentioned above, I have a Pietta 1858 that I got on sale at Cabelas
The 58 is easy to pull the cylindar as mentioned and use one of these.
https://www.amazon.com/Traditions-P...ader&qid=1555292208&s=gateway&sr=8-1-fkmrnull

AGC requires revolver loading stands and they are a pain but using these to load makes things go fast and the 58 is quick to pull the cylindar once you get the nack on the pin alignment.

You just convinced me to order one.

BTW, I prefer Pietta over Uberti. I have an 1858 Remmy and it's a bunch of fun to shoot. Easy to break down for cleaning and strong as an ox.

And I have a 45 ACP conversion cylinder for it that I got on sale at Midway, which is another good source of BP sales and my overall poverty.

ras_oscar · Apr 16, 2019

https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index...product_name/RH0342+Uberti+1860+Army+Revolver'

I have this one and have never regretted it.

Ranchero50 · Apr 16, 2019

I picked up one of these at the MACA show the other month.

Other than loading the ball with the short lever it's a true joy to shoot. Kid picked up the blued 8" barrel version and it is too. Only real PITA is getting the tiny caps on the nipples.

I want to work up a bunch of paper loads for it.

Heck, I even got my mom to shoot it (first time ever)...

winch · Apr 22, 2019

I’ve got 3 versions of the 1858 and they are a good pistol to get started in BP. All of mine are 44’s and they take the same balls.

psucobra96 · Apr 22, 2019

I’ve been waiting for a good sale as well,Memorial day weekend ought to have some sales.

WeaponsCollector · Apr 22, 2019

Ruger Old Army with a conversion cylinder you can shoot .45ACP ball ammo out of it.

Pyramid · Apr 22, 2019

quote:

Other than loading the ball with the short lever it's a true joy to shoot. Kid picked up the blued 8" barrel version and it is too. Only real PITA is getting the tiny caps on the nipples.

I want to work up a bunch of paper loads for it.

Heck, I even got my mom to shoot it (first time ever)...

Is it a 0.31 caliber revolver? I've been working on my BP stuff past few months, paper cartridges, etc. After messing with homemade dowels, rolling paper, etc, I ended up ordering two Manley Cartridge Formers, one for 0.454 RB and the other 0.33 RB. He made me the 0.33 RB former custom (no extra charge), just had to write him an email. Plenty of youtube videos on his former (search for Cliff Manley).

Ranchero50 · Apr 22, 2019

Thanks for the idea. Mine are .44 cal, .451 bullets. Didn't really want to get into melting lead but...

TLL · Apr 22, 2019

I have a Rodgers and Spence .44. Love it.
They make a cap loader that I haven't tried but should keep caps organized and make capping easier. Try it and let us know.

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Pyramid · Apr 22, 2019

Ranchero50 said:
Thanks for the idea. Mine are .44 cal, .451 bullets. Didn't really want to get into melting lead but...

The cartridge former is to make the paper cartridge and mount a conical or round ball. You don't have to cast your own balls, 0.451 balls are easy to find.

ras_oscar · May 6, 2019

I have an Uberti 1860 repro. I changed out the nipples for #11 caps. The only thing that prevents me from using it more ( aside from the cleaning regimen) is getting my pudgy fingers trained to put the caps on the nipples. Anyone know of a tool for that? All the tools I have seen are for rifles with more clearance.

Inigoes · May 6, 2019

ras_oscar said:
I have an Uberti 1860 repro. I changed out the nipples for #11 caps. The only thing that prevents me from using it more ( aside from the cleaning regimen) is getting my pudgy fingers trained to put the caps on the nipples. Anyone know of a tool for that? All the tools I have seen are for rifles with more clearance.

Have you tried a capper?

Similar in design to the rifle model, this capper with its pleasing curved design will fit into the right recesses of a revolver cylinder. The tip of the holder is designed to position the percussion cap fully exposed, making it easy to place on a revolver nipple. Hinged cover is held securely in place by positive latch. Made of solid Brass or German Silver and holds about 100 of any brand #11 caps. Does not work well on Remington style Pistols - Made in the USA

http://possibleshop.com/s-s-cappers.html

Solid metal body constructed of brass. Unlike other brands, this body is NOT made from tubing. This precision channel is fabricated with just enough space for smooth movement of #11 caps some #10 caps have problems. Holds 20 caps. Will feed every cap automatically when held in a vertical position while capping the nipple. Will reach nipples on rifles, shotguns & pistols including the narrow Remington style revolvers, . Measures 4-1/2" x 1/4" x 1/4".

ras_oscar · May 7, 2019

I have tried only my pudgy fingers. Which works best in your 1860 colt? I had seen both of those in catalogs but the reviews seemed to discourage use in a revolver. I would appreciate a recommendation.

Blacksmith101 · May 7, 2019

Track Of The Wolf sells both types and this is what they say about the ones they sell:

Straight capper

Narrow spring fingers allow this straight line capper to reach into tight cavities to place caps on most replica Colt revolvers, most rifles, shotguns, and many modern inline actions.

This capper will help "start" caps on your New Model 1858 Remington revolver, but you must seat the cap fully using your thumb. The extra deep shroud formed by the Remington nipple cavity prevents any capper from fully seating the cap. We've tried them all.

Snail shaped capper

This snail shaped capper is made with a long narrow neck to reach into Colt style cylinders, and some in-line rifles. It works well with the Colt Walker, Dragoon, Army, Navy, Pocket, Police, most Confederate, and the Rogers & Spencer.

Rifles, shotguns, and single shot pistols are easily capped with this nice replica of an original cap magazine, shown in Ned Roberts book The Muzzle Loading Caplock Rifle.

Not recommended for the Remington, Spiller & Burr, Whitney, or revolvers with shrouded nipples, which are more difficult to cap. Use our straight line capper for such revolvers, that are made with Remington style cylinders.

BeoBill · May 7, 2019

ras_oscar said:
I have tried only my pudgy fingers. Which works best in your 1860 colt? I had seen both of those in catalogs but the reviews seemed to discourage use in a revolver. I would appreciate a recommendation.

The snail capper (upper picture) should work just fine on a colt, I'm told. I have one that I use on my Remmy with a little modding.

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