I forced their hand with my call earlier today.
http://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=4029072&postcount=4
Way to go chad....
Ruger MD Compliant AR-556 - Way to Go Ruger!!
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Way to go chad....
TheGunnyRet
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I come to notice that an FFL within the State must abide by the State Law...Granted as it has been said you can procure different barrel types and place them on any AR lower, true...But I believe the Law was to regulate the "Sale" of 223/556 AR Arms, not the alteration...The other question would be if you "Built" an AR and the lower is registered through your FFL within the State of MD wouldn't that FFL be responsible to verify that the AR is an 223/556 HBAR which is within the Law...Also when you "Build" an AR your LOWER States the Caliber or Multi Caliber, Not Multi Barrel...correct...
- Jul 29, 2014
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Not sure I'm tracking with you but, FFL's only responsibility to the law is that what item he is selling is legal to be sold in Md. just as an FFL can't be responsible for selling you a shotgun that you, later, decide to saw the barrel down to 8''. He can't tell you what bbl to put on YOUR lower. You are free to break any law YOU wish, knowing(or not) that you are in violation of the law. IANAL
dreadpirate
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I forced their hand with my call earlier today.
http://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=4029072&postcount=4
I wrote them yesterday and received this response:
thank you for using the Ruger On-Line Customer Support Request Form.
This e-mail is in response to your question or comment of 10/13/2015
Request No: 308901
Comment / question:
I see on your web site that the AR-556 has a version that is Maryland legal. Two firearms dealers I have contacted have informed me it is NOT legal to sell the Ruger "State Compliant" AR-556 in Maryland. Can you provide me with the name of a Maryland dealer who will sell this rifle? Thanks!
Response:
Your question will be forwarded to the appropriate person(s). Thank you for your email.
If you need further information, please visit our website at www.ruger.com or contact us at:
Revolvers, shotguns, rifles, 10/22 Charger Pistol: (603) 865-2442
Pistols: (928) 778-6555
Serial Number History Information: (603) 865-2424
Please note: This e-mail is sent from a notification-only address that cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please do not reply to this message.
Sincerely,
Ruger Firearms
I own no six-sided dildos.Way to go chad....
Daphne called me back from Ruger and said they had removed Maryland from the list. She said their legal department felt it was okay since the 'medium contour barrel' was thicker than the Colt AR15 barrel.
If Ruger advertised the rifle as HBAR, I think it would have been okay.
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bkuether
Judge not this race .....
Again, a real shame. Not that I would have bought one of the so called compliant models, I just really have wanted one of these for a long time. I love Ruger products.
I own no six-sided dildos.
Daphne called me back from Ruger and said they had removed Maryland from the list. She said their legal department felt it was okay since the 'medium contour barrel' was thicker than the Colt AR15 barrel.
If Ruger advertised the rifle as HBAR, I think it would have been okay.
sounds good to me then as well. Let the nervous nellies dictate though...
I'm not a nervous Nellie, I'm a nattering nabob of negativism.
I "may be savin' some poor miscreant soul's life" by having them not buy an HBAR that isn't really an HBAR.
Hey, hey, I ain't no left lane lollygagger.You joined LR's club?
I'm not a nervous Nellie, I'm a nattering nabob of negativism.
I "may be savin' some poor miscreant soul's life" by having them not buy an HBAR that isn't really an HBAR.
sounds more like snooty
He was inducted into the club for his stance on the hprb.
Left lane lollygagging is an entirely different issue...
Not sure what the hullabaloo is all about. MSP has said if it's advertised as an HBAR, it's an HBAR. If the barrel is stamped HBAR, it's an HBAR. The Ruger is not.
I couldn't give a tinker's dam if someone finds a Maryland FFL that will sell him/her one, or goes to an out of state FFL and buys. Good for them. While they are at it, go to an out of state FFL and buy a Colt 6920, the FFL won't know.
I'm off now to drive 54mph in the left lane, while texting, drinking, eating scalding hot food and shaving.
And I'm an imbecile as I don't know what "the hprb" is.
I couldn't give a tinker's dam if someone finds a Maryland FFL that will sell him/her one, or goes to an out of state FFL and buys. Good for them. While they are at it, go to an out of state FFL and buy a Colt 6920, the FFL won't know.
I'm off now to drive 54mph in the left lane, while texting, drinking, eating scalding hot food and shaving.
And I'm an imbecile as I don't know what "the hprb" is.
BigDaddy
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- Feb 7, 2014
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No need for anyone to have hurt feelings over this. The whole thing started as a case if irrational over exuberance that it might be legal. It's all part of the Battered Gun Owner Syndrome in MD.
If only Ruger had said their 'medium contour barrel' was thicker than the Colt AR15 HBAR barrel, we would have had something to work with. Prior to 10/2013 the wisdom here was Hbars were muzzle heavy don't get one. Maybe that is still the case in the rest of the US and Ruger doesn't want to be saddled with that label.
If only Ruger had said their 'medium contour barrel' was thicker than the Colt AR15 HBAR barrel, we would have had something to work with. Prior to 10/2013 the wisdom here was Hbars were muzzle heavy don't get one. Maybe that is still the case in the rest of the US and Ruger doesn't want to be saddled with that label.
dreadpirate
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Ruger has lost some credibility in my eyes for making the claim that the rifle was Maryland compliant and then back tracking. Moot point anyways - no one wants a one size fits all state compliant rifle.
Better late then never but this information is straight from the MSP webpage.
Manufacturer RugerDescription
Ruger AR-556 #8502
Status Not Banned
Justification Neither a "Copycat" nor cosmetically similar to anything on the current enumerated banned weapon list
Date of Status 8/31/2016
Notes
The Ruger AR-556 #8502 is a “heavy barrel” copy of a Colt AR15 and as such exempted from the definition of regulated firearms pursuant to Maryland’s Public Safety Article, Title 5, Sub-Title 1.
Manufacturer RugerDescription
Ruger AR-556 #8511
Status Not Banned
Justification Does not meet the definition of a copycat weapon or the definition of a copy of an enumerated weapon
Date of Status 5/30/2017
Notes
Manufacturer RugerDescription
Ruger AR-556 #8502
Status Not Banned
Justification Neither a "Copycat" nor cosmetically similar to anything on the current enumerated banned weapon list
Date of Status 8/31/2016
Notes
The Ruger AR-556 #8502 is a “heavy barrel” copy of a Colt AR15 and as such exempted from the definition of regulated firearms pursuant to Maryland’s Public Safety Article, Title 5, Sub-Title 1.
Manufacturer RugerDescription
Ruger AR-556 #8511
Status Not Banned
Justification Does not meet the definition of a copycat weapon or the definition of a copy of an enumerated weapon
Date of Status 5/30/2017
Notes
That's good, especially since both Engage and United had them for sale a year ago. I only now saw this thread.
Hasn't Gymratz been selling these for a couple years now?
I know I bought a Ruger ar556 from a LGS four years ago the day after the Dallas cops were shot and Hillary and the dems were making their usual noises
I know I bought a Ruger ar556 from a LGS four years ago the day after the Dallas cops were shot and Hillary and the dems were making their usual noises
Ammo Jon
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I think the poster is a bot. Bumped a 5 year old thread.
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