My new arrival 91/30 Mosin

Mendozaco · Mar 29, 2014

I ordered two Mosins from Classic Firearms on Monday, a M 91/30 and M44. They arrived this morning. I was surprised and impressed of the quick delivery from CF. I wanted to add the a nice M44 to my collection. I included the 91/30 for $109 + $10 for the hand select since I was already paying for shipment. It's hard to resist a rifle with all that history for under $120 bucks. How did I do?

http://www.classicfirearms.com/c-r-eligible/originalmolotm9130wbayob

toolness1 · Mar 29, 2014

Wow, you did real well! A Tula in great shape, can't beat that!

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Dave91 · Mar 29, 2014

Looks like you got a really nice one. Any pics of the M44?

05dodgedaytona · Mar 29, 2014

Very nice.

Hi-Torque · Mar 29, 2014

Awesome rifle for the price. Congrats!

h2u · Mar 29, 2014

Nice! Looks like an ex-sniper. Is that, "CH" at the top of the chamber?
Pull back the bolt and look for filled in holes.

Alphabrew · Mar 29, 2014

h2u said:
Nice! Looks like an ex-sniper. Is that, "CH" at the top of the chamber?
Pull back the bolt and look for filled in holes.

^first thing I thought when I saw the receiver. Hard to tell. We need a pic of the open bolt to see if there are any plugged scope holes on e left side of the receiver.

Seagrave1963 · Mar 29, 2014

Very nice!

Alphabrew · Mar 29, 2014

This pisses me off even more that I ordered two hand picks and they sent me two non-stamped matching marginal rifles. A-holes.

Way to go, OP! :thumbsup:

why2kmax · Mar 29, 2014

great looking gun

iH8DemLibz · Mar 29, 2014

That's a Purdy one.

jkeiler · Mar 29, 2014

iH8DemLibz said:
That's a Purdy one.

You got brass barrel bands too. As I understand it those were generally made for factory foremen or other officials to commemorate production targets or some such thing. I got a 44 Mosin with them.

Dave91 · Mar 29, 2014

jkeiler said:
You got brass barrel bands too. As I understand it those were generally made for factory foremen or other officials to commemorate production targets or some such thing. I got a 44 Mosin with them.

Do you mean the brass on the handguard? I don't think that's correct. The brass was used before they switched to steel that was painted black. Some handguards still have the brass but it's painted over. That story sounds like something a dealer would tell you to help sell a rifle.

iH8DemLibz · Mar 29, 2014

jkeiler said:
You got brass barrel bands too. As I understand it those were generally made for factory foremen or other officials to commemorate production targets or some such thing. I got a 44 Mosin with them.

edited.

Alphabrew · Mar 29, 2014

The more I look at that receiver, the more convinced I become that it's an ex-sniper. That's a easy $200+ rifle.

jkeiler · Mar 29, 2014

Dave91 said:
Do you mean the brass on the handguard? I don't think that's correct. The brass was used before they switched to steel that was painted black. Some handguards still have the brass but it's painted over. That story sounds like something a dealer would tell you to help sell a rifle.

Well that may be, I'm a neophyte, but I didn't buy because a dealer sold me on it due to the brass, it just arrived randomly, and it wasn't obviously to see it casually because it was covered with grime and corrosion. So I did some research and at least at least it is uncommon to have the brass on the hand-guard end caps (I stand corrected calling it a barrel band) as per here http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinFeatures04.htm

As to whether the brass has any significance other than an early model or random use of available materials, I understand that this is unlikely, but I did read somewhere that sometimes it was specially done here and there, for what it is worth, which I reckon isn't much.

Hi-Torque · Mar 29, 2014

Alphabrew said:
The more I look at that receiver, the more convinced I become that it's an ex-sniper. That's a easy $200+ rifle.

Shouldn't it have a scope serial number on the left side of the receiver that's lined out? It is possible that it was scrubbed instead of lined out, you can see the top of the Tula star looks like it could have been hit in the process. Inside of the receiver will tell for sure....

Alphabrew · Mar 29, 2014

Hi-Torque said:
Shouldn't it have a scope serial number on the left side of the receiver that's lined out? It is possible that it was scrubbed instead of lined out, you can see the top of the Tula star looks like it could have been hit in the process. Inside of the receiver will tell for sure....

I have an ex sniper that the scope number was scrubbed off of, but it clearly has the "CH" (it's a Tula) and the scope holes on the inside. I think the Molot serial number goes where the scope number would have been, so prolly all the scope nums were taken off for the import mark.

h2u · Mar 29, 2014

From the factory, only Izhevsk snipers had the scope number applied to left side of barrel. Tula snipers were marked, "CH" or "CN" from the factory.

Upon entering refurb, some arsenals applied scope numbers to Tula snipers.
But a Tula sniper going through refurb and having a scope/mount removed (turned into an ex-sniper), would not have a need for a scope number.

psoyring · Mar 29, 2014

Only the Molot Tula snipers have a scope number on the barrel shank, and all evidence suggests that they did this stamping themselves. As for the brass endcaps on the handguard, prettier but not all that unusual, doesn't seem to add value as far as I can tell. Could very well be an ex-sniper, marks are in the right place and 1943 was the most popular year.

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