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  • trickg

    Guns 'n Drums
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    Jul 22, 2008
    14,708
    Glen Burnie
    It may literally be one of a kind survivor...……...that said I doubt it. Maybe $7 to 10k for a high end collector.
    I looked at it, and it is a rare bird - it's a saddle ring trapper in nearly 100% condition in the original shipping crate with original documentation - unfired and unused, which is pretty unusual for a model 1892.

    With that said, it's not a pre-1899 production, it has a round barrel rather than octagonal, it's a blued receiver instead of a CCH receiver. IMO it's good, but it's not that good - I'm not sure if having the original shipping crate matters or not when it comes to those old guns, but I know that anything pre-1899 fetches a premium on anything post-1899.

    Something interesting was that they mentioned that the serial number indicates a date of manufacture around 1924. I did a quick check on a site and it said 1925, not that one year would matter.

    The description says "Pre-war." Ok, but with a 1925 date of manufacture sitting right in the middle, and a good bit before WWII, I'm not sure how much that matters.

    I think someone has it high-balled hoping that someone will offer them something decent, and higher than they actually hope to get. If I wanted a nice 1892 and had the dough to spend, that's not one I'd want. I'd want one with an octagonal barrel, CCH receiver, and pre-1899.
     

    Qbeam

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    Apr 16, 2008
    6,083
    Georgia
    Yeah, my dad has a Marlin 336 with the squared lever, circa 1980s vintage. Cases would stick, I am thinking the chamber needs polishing, they would release after fiddling with the lever.


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    Jimbob2.0

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    Feb 20, 2008
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    Qbeam

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    Apr 16, 2008
    6,083
    Georgia
    I guess that's better than the "Mossberg" tactical lever guns. I actually like the blacked out but would prefer an all weather gun that is take down. Sort of reminds me of the Winchester shadows. Wouldn't be my first choice but probably not a bad field gun.


    That would be the Tacticool Secret Squirrel version in development.....


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    daggo66

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    Mar 31, 2013
    2,001
    Glen Burnie
    My new Henry all weather 30-30.
     

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    fidelity

    piled higher and deeper
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    Aug 15, 2012
    22,400
    Frederick County
    You found the right thread for it ... looks amazing (at an aesthetic level and the apparent build quality) ... and races the pulse.

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    TomisinMd

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    Mar 11, 2013
    1,728
    Elkton, Md
    Man thats nice!!! If they make that all weather with the new side gate, would you return to get that one?
    I saw where 30-30's are released with the side gate AND tube load on them.
     

    TheOriginalMexicanBob

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    Jul 2, 2017
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    Sun City West, AZ
    I picked this up over the weekend at Taylor's & Company's open house weekend in Winchester, VA. It was on their dinged and dented rack...a replica of the Colt Burgess lever action. It's in .45 Colt which isn't historically accurate. The mars in the stock are very minor for a big discount from MSRP. I've seen worse on new gun racks at stores still asking full retail.

    Legend is after Colt went into production of these Winchester execs visited with a prototype revolver and threatened to begin producing it and harm Colt's handgun sales since Colt was going to hurt Winchester's rifle sales and Colt quietly dropped the Burgess after a few thousand were made. True or not has never been proven but was true that Winchester would buy up patents and makers that threatened their sales and Colt was too big to be bought. It's a good story whether urban legend or not.
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    dist1646

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    May 1, 2012
    8,795
    Eldersburg
    I believe it was Remington, not Winchester, that Colt intimidated to not produce revolvers. The Remington's had a top strap on their revolver that made it stronger than Colt's open top. Nice pick up you have there.
     

    fidelity

    piled higher and deeper
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    Aug 15, 2012
    22,400
    Frederick County
    I picked this up over the weekend at Taylor's & Company's open house weekend in Winchester, VA. It was on their dinged and dented rack...a replica of the Colt Burgess lever action. It's in .45 Colt which isn't historically accurate. The mars in the stock are very minor for a big discount from MSRP. I've seen worse on new gun racks at stores still asking full retail.



    Legend is after Colt went into production of these Winchester execs visited with a prototype revolver and threatened to begin producing it and harm Colt's handgun sales since Colt was going to hurt Winchester's rifle sales and Colt quietly dropped the Burgess after a few thousand were made. True or not has never been proven but was true that Winchester would buy up patents and makers that threatened their sales and Colt was too big to be bought. It's a good story whether urban legend or not.

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    Beautiful gun. That bluing is so deep, and nicely polished. Looks like side gate loading? Wonder how the action compares to the Winchester 1873 or 1892 (which is very comparable to the Model 94) - is it relatively smooth (like the 1873), designed to take a higher power cartridge (like the 1892), etc? Will check out what year they were produced as this might provide clues.

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    TheOriginalMexicanBob

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    Jul 2, 2017
    32,905
    Sun City West, AZ
    The Colt Burgess was made from 1883-1885 and only in .44-40. From what little I understand about its history is it was superior in some ways than the Winchester 1873 action. It is a side loader and top eject through a port. Beyond that I really am not very knowledgeable about them. This is probably the closest I'll own of one at a reasonable price. Rough examples of the original are several thousand dollars and pristine examples are far too high for my wallet.
     

    daggo66

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    Mar 31, 2013
    2,001
    Glen Burnie
    Man thats nice!!! If they make that all weather with the new side gate, would you return to get that one?
    I saw where 30-30's are released with the side gate AND tube load on them.

    Definitely not. I have no problem with the tube load. I can't speak for other calibers but I think it's actually easier the the side gate for 30-30.
     

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