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Old August 16th, 2016, 01:34 PM #311
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I discovered this thread and read back through a number of the posts. There seems to be a lot of despair and fatalism. And anyone who "has a history" would certainly know why this is so.

Various orgnaizations have been carrying the water at the legislative level. We have them to thank for their yeoman's efforts to stem the tide of hoplophobia.

An approach that has proven successful in other arenas is an organized, coordinated campaign of citizen direct action. This can attract attention, shift the arena, reframe the agenda and sieze the initiate. There's just one big challenge involved: it requires a growing group of committed folks who are prepared to invest time and energy to build networks--at the belly button to belly button and eyeball to eyeball level--that are committed to the "long game."

I've been involved in these endeavors in the past. They do bear fruit. They require a lot of unglamorous work. And they do produce some pretty exciting "encounters." It's time to seriously explore this strategy.

If there's any interest in discussing this strategy I would suggest that we take the discussion offline. Verbal exchanges will be more productive than digital missives back and forth.

What do you think?
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Old March 22nd, 2018, 07:45 AM #312
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joppj, and EVERYONE else,

Much as I try to deny it, I've entered the ranks of "the old guys." I guess that gives me the right to offer some background. joppj, very simply, I been there. Several times I have been involved in the organization of statewide groups to do what you seem to propose. I have made countless trips around Maryland promoting those groups but especially, this idea that IF we could just stick together, and each do his part, we could be a force to be reckoned with. The most important part of that equation is that just as most of the people live in a few counties. Just as most of the anti-gun politicians are from those same counties. Most of the gun owners are ALSO FROM THOSE COUNTIES!!! Times like these when emotion is high, everyone is all for. As soon as the threat is past OR we lose the individual fight, interest returns to other things and support vanishes. Unless and until 2A becomes and remains the #1 political goal of those it affects, not just when there's a threat but every day, every election, every GA session,we're going to continue to be ignored by the legislature. I hope that changes one day. I hope the people directly affected by this theft of rights wake up and stay vigilant to the threat. Past experience has not supported that hope... but I can still hope. YOU guys are that hope. Make it happen this time boys.
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Hmmm
You know according to another thread here I'm supposed to go out to rallys and dress like a pipe hitter, kit and all that. Grow a big beard, chest rig open carry stuff. Had my manhood questioned for questioning a better way. Strange how stuff shifts all over this board. Not a dig but food for thought is that those thinking about direct action should seriously think about the end game, at least getting a visit from the many LEO agencies that monitor board just like this, at worst Bosnia.
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Hmmm
You know according to another thread here I'm supposed to go out to rallys and dress like a pipe hitter, kit and all that. Grow a big beard, chest rig open carry stuff. Had my manhood questioned for questioning a better way. Strange how stuff shifts all over this board. Not a dig but food for thought is that those thinking about direct action should seriously think about the end game, at least getting a visit from the many LEO agencies that monitor board just like this, at worst Bosnia.
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Hmmm
You know according to another thread here I'm supposed to go out to rallys and dress like a pipe hitter, kit and all that. Grow a big beard, chest rig open carry stuff. Had my manhood questioned for questioning a better way. Strange how stuff shifts all over this board. Not a dig but food for thought is that those thinking about direct action should seriously think about the end game, at least getting a visit from the many LEO agencies that monitor board just like this, at worst Bosnia.
What about Bosnia?
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What about Bosnia?
He's making reference to ethnic cleansing and egregious, horrible civil war.
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